Hey Kevin,
<offlist> and WDSC List since i'm not sure if you are subscribed to the
WDSC list.
As far as cost justification goes... try this...
Say that on average that a developer conservatively costs the company
$25/hr. Its probably a bit more, but we'll be conservative to show the
worst case scenario.
Joe claims 1 to 2 hours per week of added productivity. I know that from
when I was test driving RDP 8 I also saw these gains over WDSC7. So lets
take the conservative 1 hr gain.
So, $800 per seat divided by $25/week in savings. That is 32 weeks and
you have yoru ROI. That means 20 weeks or $400 to the good for the
company per developer. $400 times 20 devs is $8000 is savings for the
company through increased productivity just the first year. Now, I don't
know what maintenance is for RDP8, but its probably less than $800 per
seat so you'll see even greater gains next year. Not to mention that this
is probably the worst case.
Take those numbers to the powers that be. Sure its a lot to pony up now,
but pays dividends in about 8 months time. This is a great value
proposition if you ask me.
Thanks
Bryce Martin
Programmer/Analyst I
570-546-4777
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Yes I tried, but Adobe doesn't want to play.
It might not be such a big deal as I first thought though. We only have
three or four flex developers/licenses. Those guys can just stick with
what they have and the rest could switch to V8. It is just a case of
being able to justify $800 per seat - and at the moment I am struggling
with that.
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From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Schmidt, Mihael
Sent: 04 March 2011 08:36
To: Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries
Subject: Re: [WEB400] RDi V8 as a plug-in
RDP is MUCH faster than the old hog WDSC. But it is slower than RPG Next
Gen Editor. And the whole Eclipse installation definitely won't get faster
if you add the Rational Tooling to it, no matter what.
Have you tried adding flex to RDP 8.0? It might work as generally plugins
are compatible with new Eclipse platforms (as long as it is the same major
version).
Mihael
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Behalf Of Kevin Turner
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 9:12 AM
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Subject: Re: [WEB400] RDi V8 as a plug-in
So you think it is slow and Joe thinks it is fast :-) It doesn't make
WSDc any slower to include it as a plugin to an existing eclipse install
though.
I have since tried the "add to package" option for RDi. It doesn't seem to
work. It seems that RDi is based on eclipse 3.6 but the highest release
that supports WSDc and flex is 3.2
On 4 Mar 2011, at 06:01, "Schmidt, Mihael" <Mihael.Schmidt@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
During the installation process there is a screen where you can opt in
"install into an existing Eclipse installation" (or something like this).
But I don't think that that makes any sense. RDP is slow/big enough. I
wouldn't want to have it in any of my other Eclipse installations.
Regards
Mihael
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Subject: [WEB400] RDi V8 as a plug-in
I know there are more specific forums for questions like this, but does
anyone know if it is possible to add RDi V8 as a plugin to an existing
Eclipse installation?
I have installed RDi to see if it has any benefits over WDSc 7.0. I
have the latter added to an existing Eclipse instance that already has
some other things we used installed (like Adobe Flex for example), but I
cannot see any way of doing the same with RDi. I cannot seem to add Flex
plug-in to the RDi installation either, so it looks like if I want to use
RDi I still have to keep my other Eclipse 3.x installation at the same
time.
At the moment, I cannot see any justification for paying $800 for an RDi
licence because it is not giving me anything (that I need) over and above
WSDc 7.0
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