Tim,
How is Scott giving his opinion cutting through opinions and getting to the heart (Fact?) of the matter. It's not, it's an opinion. I mean, I don't like disagreeing with Scott on this matter, but I do. He has said that to him SEU is no different in RDi in regard to productivity. Well, I guess that's great for him, but without a doubt the number of lines viewed and number of columns viewed (on my computer and at a co-worker's, who may not have the emulator display set to 132 width) those are extra keystrokes. Extra keystrokes that are required to grasp the big picture.
To give an example of just how beneficial I find WDSCi to be over SEU:
Maybe I'm shooting myself in the foot here, but when I was looking for a job just over a year ago, I had considered entry-level java programmer positions instead of taking an RPG job coding in SEU. Luckily, I landed in an environment that allows (and since, embraces) WDSCi as well as more modern programming practices (modularization - not sure if that's really "modern" in the world of programming, but definitely in the world of RPG).
-Kurt
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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Timothy Adair
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 4:04 PM
To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Change management systems
Thank you Scott!
Finally, someone cuts through all the opinions (on both sides) and gets to
the heart of the matter.
If programmer ABC writes the program in SEU/PDM and programmer XYZ writes it
in WDSc/RDi, and the user sees and runs the exact same program, who cares
which programming environment it was written in? (Pardon the bad grammar.)
Perhaps we need to remember that our primary purpose as developers is to
support the user. Period. Every user - from the data entry operator to the
CEO.
Now that I'm done ranting, allow me to ask a question. Does compiling the
same source in PDM produce the exact same object as compiling it in
WDSc/RDi?
"Scott Klement" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:mailman.14503.1268429052.2580.midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Technically, PDM and SEU are not the same thing. But, PDM calls SEU when
it needs to edit code.
They both come together as part of a package named ADTS. (Application
Development Tool Set) along with a few other things.
Personally, I think the advantages of WDSC/RDi/RDP over PDM/SEU are being
constantly overstated in these forums. There are certainly some things
that RDi does better, like copy/paste, outline view, syntax highlighting.
But these things aren't the ultra-awesome, revolutionary things that folks
in these forums make them out to be. Yes, copy/paste is better in RDi,
but I could still do it in SEU, and I could do it pretty well. Yes,
outline view is useful, but searching out what I'm looking for also works.
Yes, syntax highlighting/coloring can be nice, but I can read my code okay
when it's all one color.
Personally, I think the user interface seen by the USER is far more
important than the interface seen by the DEVELOPER.
midrange.com
