Re: WDSC Futures

I think we eventually entered into complaining, but it originally started
out as awareness which is very necessary and this is the forum for that.  In
George's keynote he said we haven't lost anything, and TECHNICALLY speaking
he is right as everything we had in v6.x is still in v7.0.  But reading
between the lines and knowing that CODE won't be supported/tested on future
Windows OSes is the same as taking it away in my mind.  Sure we can get it
in AE, and sure we can eventually buy it for $300/seat, but that doesn't
hide the fact that they went the AE $xK route in the first place.  In a year
or two you will see people on this forum asking around for a copy "of that
one CD that has that one program that IBM deprecated".

In the end I agree that we need to send our complaints to the right person.
Thanks for finding that form Scott; I plan on submitting a, hopefully
tasteful, statement.

Aaron Bartell
http://mowyourlawn.com 



-----Original Message-----
From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Turnidge, Dave
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 7:17 AM
To: Websphere Development Studio Client for iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] WDSC Futures

There have been a number of complaints about topics that really have nothing
to do with technical one to one or many to one support, to say nothing of
the traveling itinerary discussion. It's a pain to have to continually read
all the crap that has nothing to do with getting our jobs done in the most
productive and efficient way possible. All it does is waste 100's if not
1000's of people's time. So, I would like to strongly concur with the
following comment:

"Stop complaining to this list." 

Please.

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Jon Paris
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 6:10 PM
To: wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [WDSCI-L] WDSC Futures

Having heard George Farr's comments at the RPG and DB2 Summit and had an
opportunity to talk to him on the topic I'd like to add a couple of
comments/statements of fact to the mix and then make a suggestion.  

1) IBM is NOT one company.  The money made by the System i division for
harware and OS sales has no direct correlation with the revenue from
software sales.

2) WDSC etc. now comes from Rational (part of Software Group?)

3) Rational's background is BIG $ mainframe level tools.  They regularly
deal with customers who pay $250,000 or more for a compiler.  To them a
$4,000 workbench looks like a bargain.

4) i5 users pay a premium price for all of their hardware - they expect to
get their tools for nothing (or as close to nothing as possible).

5) George Farr's team is paid for by Rational - Rational want revenue - they
see zero dollars from the premium price of i5 hardware.

My suggestion is simple.  Stop complaining to this list, George Farr, or
Rational, or Rochester.  

START complaining to Sam Palmisano.  He is the only person who can resolve
this because this is a structural problem within IBM and has been for years.
The drop in the price of i5 hardware (despite the premium) to near commodity
levels has simply exacerbated a long standing problem.

Only Sam can fix this because the Software folks and the System i folks are
operating in different universes.  The fact that you pay a premium for your
i5 hardware does not add a single cent to Rational's bottom line - and they
are effectively a separate company.  

This is Sam's problem - tell him - George can't fix it and neither can Mark
Shearer (although he has a better chance than George).



Jon Paris
Partner400

www.Partner400.com

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