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LOL, I'll agree that the learning curve is tremendous, but I fail to see how jumping to .net would aleviate that pressure. The problem with changing paradigms is that we RPG programmers have tended to wall ourselves off from the "outside world", preferring to focus on delivering software in the same fashion we did twenty years ago. We left ourselves behind, and now we must either embrace the new ways, or limp along with the old. One approach opens new doors, the other closes them..... IBM has perhaps given us too much in the WDSCi tooling. I too use only a small portion of the available tooling, and am struggling to learn my way to the productivity gains IBM has promised. However, I count this as MY deficiency, not IBM's, and continue to challenge my assumptions about software development and the tools I should use. WDSCi lite goes a long way toward making the new tooling more useful to a broad range of programmers.... I expect to see an end to the DSPF/PRTF dilemma soon enough for it to not matter.... Bringing SOA into the bag of tricks might take a bit longer.... I'm not 40 yet (soon enough, though), so I don't have the luxury of retirement to buffer my career. With 22 years of experience on this platform, I hope that I can stay with the System i family until that time arrives, but to do so requires me to forge ahead. I must learn to think differently about architecture, about best practices and programming standards that improve the quality of software I write. later, Eric
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