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                Ron,

I agree with your comments, I have used the WDSCi tool for several years and 
while not perfect is much more productive (for me) than SEU and SDA. Like any 
tool .net included crashes every so often so when I teach fellow employees how 
to use WDSCi I tell them save often. I like that everyone is passionate on the 
subject but dont take it so personal, use it if you want and dont if you cant 
or wont. I agree with one comment though I wont take any position now that 
doesnt allow its use because for me its going backward. Final not, now that I 
have started coding Java it wasnt a great leap because I already knew the tool 
so I guess IBM's Roadmap has some legitimate backing.

Just my feelings
Don Nitke
Sr P/A Friedman Corp.

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                                From: Ron Power <RPower@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 11:19 AM
To: Websphere Development Studio Client for iSeries <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Code/400 Install Vista 

Just to interject my own comments here... but I've been using WDSc now for 
about 3 years. First for RPG development, and now for RPG AND Java 
development. I've had very few issues with the product once I got the 
hang of using it. Mind you, I'm running what I would consider a powerful 
PC, Dell Precision 380, with 2 gigs of ram, and a dual core processor. But 
I don't see that being any different than needed a larger truck to haul 
more goods. Yes, WDSc is somewhat bloated, but for me to be able to edit 
HTML, java, javascript, rpg's, cl, dds, etc all in the one user interface 
is quite neat. With the code assist features, help readily available, and 
add in the Code Repository (which we are using for Java development, not 
sure if that can handle anything else) it's wonderful. To be honest, if I 
switched jobs now and went to an employer who would refuse me the product, 
or refuse to buy a machine capable of it, then I'd simply bow out of 
accepting a position (aside from obvious reasons... government, union, 
etc... ;) ). If my current employer now told me I had to use a slower 
machine, then I'd simply say "expect less output then...". There's an old 
saying "takes money to make money". That's fundamentally true in the IT 
world. Mind you, I can't think of an editor that would allow me all these 
features, nor have I looked. Is there one? Not some, but all those 
features.

Ron Power
Programmer
Information Services
City Of St. John's, NL
P.O. Box 908
St. John's, NL
A1C 5M2
709-576-8132
rpower@xxxxxxxxxx
http://www.stjohns.ca/
___________________________________________________________________________
Success is going from failure to failure without a loss of enthusiasm. - 
Sir Winston Churchill

"Joe Pluta" 
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From: Kaiserbladekarl

Both of these books are from a Java perspective though correct? If
I'm not interested in moving to Java how would they help me use WDSC
with RPG?

WDSC: Step by Step will walk you through not only the Java side but also 
the
RPG side of WDSC. It's not in-depth, but it's enough to get past the
initial hurdle.

My "scare tactics" are no more than telling you what IBM has
been saying: the development dollars for tools will be pushed to
WDSC rather
than SEU.
Great! then where are the goodies?

I can't even imagine what you mean by this. WDSC is an incredible tool 
with
tons of goodies. It just doesn't have YOUR particular goodie.

I don't get to pick the machine I'm given. A small handicap for those
who work for someone other than themselves. And how do I justify a
new computer when the one I've been using for three yars will allow
me to work fine AND WDSC is still not complete?

If you (or your employer) can't afford a $700 PC, then you need to stick
with SEU.

Heck, none of the green screen diehards would even use WDSC, so why
do you think IBM would bother creating an SDA replacement?

None of them? Are there stats to back this up or are you using
hyperbole? I know plenty of green screen diehards who would use WDSC
if it were usable.

When WDSC first came out, there was (and still is) huge pushback from the
green screen developers community. 

AND IT'S ALL FREE.

Free? Please. Like roads are free and police protection is free. It
gets paid for its just a matter of how.

Ah, nevermind.

Joe


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