Re: DON'T LET THEM TAKE ME BACK TO SEU

That doesn't read right now, should be "a stack of MOVE's into Evals"

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[mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]Namens Raby, Steve
Verzonden: vrijdag 24 november 2006 9:16
Aan: Websphere Development Studio Client for iSeries
Onderwerp: Re: [WDSCI-L] DON'T LET THEM TAKE ME BACK TO SEU


I have gone back on SEU cos three times the other day WSDC just locked and 
crashed, losing me hours of work. I know I should save the work regularly but 
as a new user I haven't got into that habit yet. We are on 5.1 here and they 
dont seem bothered about getting an upgrade, and my contract finishes next 
month so hopefully my next place will have a more up-to-date version.

I agree with some of your list of likes (haven't done them all) one thing I 
miss from SEU is the way cut and paste and the cursor movement works, e.g. 
converting RPGIII to RPGIV and you want to make a stack of moves Eval, easy in 
SEU to cut and paste a column of fields, not so in WSDC, unles I haven't found 
that bit yet.

Steve 

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[mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]Namens albartell
Verzonden: vrijdag 24 november 2006 4:33
Aan: 'Websphere Development Studio Client for iSeries'
Onderwerp: Re: [WDSCI-L] DON'T LET THEM TAKE ME BACK TO SEU


My favorite things about WDSC:

1. View mass amounts of code at a time (i.e. around 60 vs. SEU's 19)
2. Color coded syntax - easier to read thus makes me more productive.
3. Compile errors combined into LPEX editor so you can fix errors where the
compiler noted it without having to go back and forth between two 5250
sessions.  Sure you can kinda do this with SEU and browsing the spool file,
but now you are down to less than 9 lines of code being viewed - yuck.
4. Ability to create member filters so I can organize the things I access
most very quickly.
5. I am starting to like the debugger (when it works).
6. The 'Compare' plugin that Mark Phippard wrote absolutely rocks and has
saved my butt many times in the past month.  
7. Ease of viewing files in the IFS - specifically xml files which WDSC has
a nice color coded viewer for.  The xml viewer needs some work so it doesn't
puke on large files.
8. Very nice iSeries search utility for source objects.

Well, that was my top eight.  The first one is probably my biggest reason
for WDSC and I would use it based on that one point - viewing a lot of
source at once.

Things in WDSC that make me take things back I never stole:
1. Inability to work outside of a LAN or VPN connection without incredibly
pain (i.e. constant disconnects because of how the call backs to the
workstation).
2. At times and with certain functions it pokes (slow).  This can sometimes
be fixed by getting a larger box.  
3. Hangs without giving option to stop (notice this a lot with connection
timeouts and while viewing large XML files). This usually results in a hard
shutdown of the app and then when I open WDSC up again my environment wasn't
saved correctly (e.g. the correct source members aren't open)
4. Hmmm... I know there is more that drives me crazy about WDSC, but I can't
think of any right now (must be the turkey setting in).  But when the day is
done, the benefits definitely outweigh the things that need to be worked on.

If you CAN'T come up with personal performance gain benefits then I would
agree with your superiors that it would be a waste of a day to do the
upgrade and maybe a waste of using WDSC period.  I am guessing that is not
the case, but as with any thing that goes against the norm you may have to
stick your neck out on the line for a product that has a boatload of great
features but also has it's minuses.

HTH,
Aaron Bartell
http://mowyourlawn.com


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From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of David Foxwell
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 12:28 AM
To: Websphere Development Studio Client for iSeries
Subject: [WDSCI-L] DON'T LET THEM TAKE ME BACK TO SEU

Hello all,

My shop is preparing to upgrade from iseries to an i5. Before we make the
change, we will install OS V5R4 on the iseries. There are no plans to
upgrade WDSc from version 5.1, as I am the only user of this product.

I have been invited, however, to put forward good reasons to upgrade WDSc.

I have noted a few arguments, and I would like to know what else I can add
to my list. At the moment, I'm only concerned with RPG programming. .

Features present with v5.1 but not used because the programme is likely to
crash :
Outline view
Source verifier
Programme compiler

Please help, I'm worried that v5.1 will have even more problems with OSV5R4.

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