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Thank you David -----Original Message----- From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Dykstal Sent: 07 February 2006 20:30 To: Websphere Development Studio Client for iSeries Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Using Eclipse and Subclipse The articles on this are fairly old, and I haven't tracked them down, but they say something like the following: One of the assumptions of iSeries projects is that each developer works in a separate library (that project's associated library), backed by a team library in the library list that holds common objects (source files, display and data files, data areas). This way, each developer can make changes to their own programs without overwriting the others. From time to time, one developer from the team will update the team library -- this one would tend to have the copybook members. You're correct in that if all team members work in the same library they will collide if their projects overlap. If you all want to work in the same library, then its best to have several related projects that don't overlap and have members of the team push only those that they are working on. The "push" function for iSeries projects is not a general synchronization mechanism. There have been requests for this, and it would help to solve your problem as well. _______________________ David Dykstal david_dykstal@xxxxxxxxxx "Kevin Turner" <kevin.turner@cor altree.co.uk> To Sent by: "Websphere Development Studio wdsci-l-bounces@m Client for iSeries" idrange.com <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> cc 02/07/2006 01:50 Subject PM Re: [WDSCI-L] Using Eclipse and Subclipse Please respond to Websphere Development Studio Client for iSeries Sorry for extending this thread still further, but we are still experiencing some fundamental issues with ISeries Projects. As it stands, the ISeries Project is very small with only two developers working on the feature. This is what happens: ** 2 developers do a "Team/Update" to get the latest version(s) of the source from the repository. They both get a copybook source member and various RPGLE modules. ** Developer 1 makes some changes to an RPGLE module and an associated copybook source member. ** Developer 1 sends a compile to the iSeries. This pushes everything (his recent changes and everything he received from the "update") down to the iSeries and compiles. ** Developer 2 then makes some changes to a different RPGLE module. ** Developer 2 sends a compile to the iSeries. This pushes everything (his recent changes and everything he received from the "update") down to the iSeries and compiles. ** Developer 2 has now overwritten Developer 1's RPGLE module changes and copybook source member changes on the iSeries with out-of-date versions (even though he has made no changes to them). ** Developer 1 changes his RPGLE module again, but not the copybook source member. ** Developer 1 sends his changes module to the iSeries but this time it won't compile because Developer 2 overwrote the associated copybook member. This causes a great deal of confusion. Developer 1 eventually works out the problem and has to "force" his copybook changes back to the iSeries (even though he hasn't changed it). Add a couple more developers to the scenario and its mayhem! Everyone keeps overwriting each others source. Does anyone else have this issue and what is the recommended work around? Maybe we should do a "Push" as soon as we retrieve and "Update" to ensure that once we start working only our specific changes get sent to the iSeries. Any insight gratefully received. -----Original Message----- From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Dykstal Sent: 06 February 2006 23:15 To: Websphere Development Studio Client for iSeries Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Using Eclpise and Subclipse ISeries Project's "push changes" for a project will push all members that have had their timestamps updated since the last push. It doesn't matter if they came from the repository or from an edit. "Push changes" is intended to make the associated library up to date with your project in WDSC in preparation for a build or a compile. Why push ALL the changes? Well, you may have changed copy members or file definitions and those need to be pushed to provide the correct context for a compile or build. WDSC doesn't have any dependency analysis built into it yet. And, unfortunately, we haven't put the knobs in place yet to let you turn off the automatic push for compiles. The original thought behind the associated library was that this was to be a scratch library (backed by a team library in the library list) that only one or two people worked at a time. It seems however, that folks tend to want to use this as a team library. In that case, the idea that all team members have to push every change received from the repository is strange since that results in a lot of unnecessary pushes. Clearly, in this case, some kind of two-way synchronization that depends on something besides a timestamp is needed. These are all great points and I'll enter them into our feedback database. _______________________ David Dykstal david_dykstal@xxxxxxxxxx -- This is the Websphere Development Studio Client for iSeries (WDSCI-L) mailing list To post a message email: WDSCI-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/wdsci-l or email: WDSCI-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/wdsci-l. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.2/251 - Release Date: 04/02/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. 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