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Rob, I've asked to download some of the PDF's from the library at IBM, and will have a look at them (FTP is a big no-no for regular people like me here). As for training, I fear that none of the people you mention would be willing to hop on a flight to Belgium for a quick presentation on WDSCi (Joe? I'd buy you a VERY big cold beer if you did <vbg>) The tutorials are nice, but geared very much towards the web & java side of the product: there is 1 (one) tutorial in 'Do and learn' that talks about RPG development. As we are almost exclusively developing "regular" RPG(LE) programs, which are then GUI-ized through a product called AxWare, the tutorials are not really relevant at this time. COMMON in Belgium is rather small scale, and I have yet to see a seminar related to WDSCi. And I don't think IBM does a tech conference over here, or even in Europe for that matter. So I guess I'll have to whip up a presentation of my own. Thanks anyway. Peter Colpaert Application Developer PLI - IT - Kontich, Belgium ----- Yoda of Borg are we. Futile is resistance, assimilated will you be. ----- rob@xxxxxxxxx Sent by: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 27/01/2006 14:52 Please respond to Websphere Development Studio Client for iSeries <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To Websphere Development Studio Client for iSeries <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> cc Subject Re: [WDSCI-L] Presentation on the advantages of WDSCi In a perfect world you would do the following: Generate excitement, train, exclusively implement. Generate Excitement http://www-306.ibm.com/software/awdtools/wdt400/ - Success stories - You all get new, beefier, PC's! Training - We used Jon Paris, on site, for a few days (but that was pre-lpex days) - Joe Pluta does this also - See also Susan Gantner - COMMON - IBM Technical conference - http://www.statususer.org/statususer/html/20060510.html - A local BP had a training lab that sponsored a full day on WDSC from an iSeries RPG perspective. Could have used a little more time as I ran short on debugger experience. eweingartner at shambaugh dot com - Tutorials in the product itself - Books: - - http://store.midrange.com/ - - http://www-306.ibm.com/software/awdtools/wdt400/library/iSeriesJavaAppDev.html Don't get cheap here. Dropping a grand or two on onsite training is cheap compared to the lost productivity, or worse, failed installation. Exclusively implement - This may require management approval. But I, and others, strongly suggest that you secure (or save off and delete) the following commands for the first month: STRSEU, STRSDA, STRPDM, WRKLIBPDM, WRKOBJPDM, WRKMBRPDM, and whatever GO PROGRAM option 1 does. Failure to do so will result in many developers pissing on management, and on all the money invested, by refusing to at least give the new environment a try until they get over their fear of change. "Change? That's for users! Not for me!" Rob Berendt
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