Re: User group meeting last night in Dallas

Yeah, I've found ordering the CD's to be a complete pain in the...
I had to try to order them twice.  The first time, I got something called 
AS/400 development toolkit I believe.  Way off the mark.

Ron Power
Programmer
Information Services
City Of St. John's, NL
P.O. Box 908
St. John's, NL
A1C 5M2
Tel: 709-576-8132
Email: rpower@xxxxxxxxxx
Website: http://www.stjohns.ca/
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A combination, I think.  He had been given a brand new laptop to use 
because
what he had couldn't handle it.  That, coupled with lots of small things,
led to the problems.  Was he prepared?  He is a teacher by profession.  He
seemed prepared, rehearsed, and enthusiastic.  Was it a failure of the
product?  Probably not, but the combined effect was that all of us that 
have
tried to use the product feel a little less like tadpoles.



Another interesting comment I heard repeated over and over after the 
meeting
 and I have heard continually for 10+ years, was "How can I get the CDs? 
The company says they can't find them, and they won't look for them, and
they won't let me look either.  I want to fool around with this on my own
time. "    It just seems impossible to get these CDs on a regular and 
timely
basis.  Even if we could get an old set and then update from the web....

 

 

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From: Websphere Development Studio Client for iSeries

Date: 06/22/05 09:47:01

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So,

unprepared or just a dramatic failure of the product?

 

Ron Power

Programmer

Information Services

City Of St. John's, NL

P.O. Box 908

St. John's, NL

A1C 5M2

Tel: 709-576-8132

Email: rpower@xxxxxxxxxx

Website: http://www.stjohns.ca/

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User group meeting last night in Dallas was interesting but distressing to

an IBM bigot such as myself.  The presentation was   eServer Studio

Development (IDE) IBM WebSphere  versus  Microsoft VisualStudio.Net  and

was

billed as being as " An unbiased live demonstration of both these products

will be presented and will be processed on an IBM eServer i5."

 

It was the best attended meeting of the year, by far.  Nearly everything

went well and we all learned a great deal and it was a positive

experience.

 

 

However, Wepsphere failed.  We could see exciting pieces of it, but it is

just too complicated to use apparently.  I came away shaking my head and

wondering why it has to be so complicated and over-engineered, or

something.

  Once the first piece of the project failed, the speaker's attempts to

recover the demonstration just led to a cascading of problems, and finally

all communication with the iSeries was lost.

 

I have to admit that VisualStudio looked simplistic to the eye, but gosh,

it

worked.

 

 

 

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