Re: Fw: [WDSCI-L] what's next?

[Anton Gombkötö <gombkoetoe@xxxxxxxxxx>]

> In my opinion, if we can remove the name "WebSphere" from a few
> products it can only help!  Just long as they do not call it
> Rational WebSphere Studio or something like that :)

Great. Then we have forget WebSphere RPG and welcome a name that gives
RPG a new sense: RPG - Rational Program Generator!!! Isn't that cewl?
:-)

> Seriously, I think that because of the names a lot of people still think
> that WDSC is only for people that are developing applications for
> WebSphere.

Maybe that's why they write Websphere on anything that somehow fits
into it? Websphere RPG - today it even makes sense!

Perhaps they eventually call everything "iSeries" or back to "AS/400"
- the marketing gag about people wanting their loved name back and IBM
giving in is almost unpayable. I guess a lot of people would ask
themselves what such a system is all about.

0.02 Euro

best regards,

Anton Gombkötö
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> Mark, a good summary!
> Yes, this is all a good thing, not a bad thing. We simply moved all the
> people working on WSSD and
> WSAD into Rational (but not WDSC or other tools tied to a single runtime or
> middleware), and so you
> will see two things, eventually:
> - more and more function as the Rational tools are fully integrated into
> the WS tools, on top of eclipse,
> and which we subsequently inherit for iSeries. Think of it as the
> number of people working on this stuff
> has all just increased considerably!
> - new names, as Rational becomes IBM's brand for anything tool or AD
> related. Its been a few releases
> anyway, we were due for a name change :-)

> Phil Coulthard, STSM, iSeries AD,  IBM Canada Ltd. coulthar@xxxxxxxxxxx
> 905-413-4076, t/l 969-4076

> ----- Forwarded by Phil Coulthard/Toronto/IBM on 01/15/2004 10:11 AM -----

> "Mark Phippard"
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> One of the things specifically mentioned on the announcement is that this
> all going to be based on Eclipse.  So I think that this will be re-branding
> as much as anything.  SDP is likely a new name for WSWB (WebSphere Studio
> Workbench) which is what the current tools are built on.

> I also wouldn't be surprised if we saw "Lite" versions of some of the
> Rational tools make their way into WSAD the way that their ClearCase
> product already does.  For example, there might be a simple UML modeling
> tool added that can interoperate with the full-blown Rational Rose toolset,
> also they have their testing and requirements management tools.

> I imagine a lot of this was also about consolidation of effort.  For
> example, WSAD 5.1 included a basic UML class diagrammer.  Given that this
> is what Rational Rose provides you have a situation where the tool provided
> with WSAD somewhat undercuts the ability to sell Rose, also that tool does
> not allow you to "grow" to the full Rose tool and finally it means there
> were two teams of employees at IBM being paid to write the exact same tool.

> In my opinion, the only impact that this will have on WDSC is that WDSC is
> built on top of WSAD/WSSD so whatever enhancements come to those tools
> should be brought forward into WDSC.  I doubt that the iSeries-specific
> tooling that WDSC provides will be altered by this.

> Of course this is all just speculation, we shall see.

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> I just read this at
> http://www.mcpressonline.com/mc?1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@.6ae8bff9 :

> <quote>
> [IBM will in 2004] Put Rational Software in complete charge of tool
> strategy. When IBM unveiled the SDP last month, it also turned over
> responsibility for the WebSphere Studio tool family to Rational Software.
> As part of the move, IBM transferred 400 internal staff members from the
> WebSphere Studio group to the Rational division. As a consequence, Rational
> Software is now in full control of IBM's development tools and the SDP
> strategy.
> </quote>

> What does this mean for WDSC, and us users?  Rebranding _AGAIN_?

> Phil

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