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Joe, Go ask Bob Cancilla what he thinks of the EAR/WAR concept. ;-) Seriously, this stuff looks crazy to an old (at least in Internet years) Net.Data/RPG guy. No way to deploy a fix to a broken app without taking down the server? Well, now WAS-E running on a single node looks really attractive -- as long as we never deploy an app with a bug in it. We usually only deploy apps late at night, but every so often we do have to put in a fix ASAP. Now I have to take down the entire app server? Ugh, I can't wait. Mike E. > From: David Gibbs > > There are other tools available that are more robust than ANT ... > but they aren't free. "Tools"? As in deployment tools? Some sort of add-on tool that will deploy applications? I don't understand how that would work with WAS. The only way I know to deploy to WAS is via an EAR file (or, to a limited degree, with a WAR file). There are no other tools, because the WAS folks insist that they are following the "J2EE standard" and that's all they need to do. Unfortunately, the more I look into it, the more I realize that J2EE isn't really standard for business applications. No concept of net change deployment, no ability to hot install without bringing down the server, and now I find that there's no way to run a post-installation script. As far as I can tell, the J2EE deployment model is pretty much just a way to occasionally install a tool. It certainly is no model for business application deployment. Joe
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