RE: [WDSCI-L] Re: RE: SQL tools

[rob@xxxxxxxxx]

I agree.  That is why I begged to have STRSEU removed or renamed from our 
system immediately after the departure of Jon Paris.  Yes, we contracted 
Jon to come on site and do training.  Then, after he left, they went back 
to SEU.  Would have been nice if they'd at least tried CODE/400 for 30 
days.

Rob Berendt
-- 
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary 
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." 
Benjamin Franklin 





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I agree, Buck, but you and I have already had this discussion....  IMO, 
for
the bulk of programmers, it has NOTHING to do with productivity, and
EVERYTHING to do with comfort.  Even with training, many would stick with
SEU, just because it seems simpler and they think they understand it 
better.

Eric DeLong
Sally Beauty Company
MIS-Project Manager (BSG)
940-898-7863 or ext. 1863



-----Original Message-----
From: Buck Calabro [mailto:Buck.Calabro@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 3:58 PM
To: Websphere Development Studio Client for iSeries
Subject: RE: [WDSCI-L] Re: RE: SQL tools


>The hard core green screen attics will not switch 
>over to the editor because it can do all these functions. 

I hate to agree in public, but I'm forced to.  Virtually every iSeries
programmer is automatically a 'hard core green screen addict' since they
overwhelmingly use SEU/PDM for all their coding needs.  An extremely
unscientific survey of those I've met in the past ten years tells me that
virtually nobody uses the SEU command line, and line commands outside of
C/D/B/A are exotic.

The point being that SEU users are very (no, extremely!) comfortable with
SIMPLE and PRIMITIVE.  If they wanted more features, they'd read the help 
on
SEU and use what limited function it has.  My logic may be flawed, of
course.  I don't personally think there's anything that can be done to
entice programmers comfortable with SEU over to a GUI editor, speed
included.
  --buck
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