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Re: Logging (log4net et al)

Walden

If you rely on logs so much you have too many bugs and issues. Yes logs are
useful for tracking when jobs start and end or throw exceptions etc and
occasionally for debugging, and yes mine can be turned on or off.

Maybe start another thread about the best approach to Logs? As Mike has
noted it is a fair point.

Regards

Maurice

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[mailto:systemidotnet-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Walden H. Leverich
Sent: 06 August 2012 21:58
To: .net use with the System i
Subject: [SystemiDotNet] Logging (log4net et al)

I have great respect for you but this is Boooooring.

Fair enough, but I would say that once you have a system generating
gigabytes of logfiles a day, and have used them to "debug" everything from
real bugs to stupid user errors, you're not likely to want to code a system
w/out logging.

Plus, I find the log entries to be a helpful documentation tool themselves
and the debug() log entries often explain what you're doing so you can
follow the bouncing ball in the log files.

-Walden


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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:systemidotnet-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Maurice O'Prey
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 4:55 PM
To: '.net use with the System i'
Subject: Re: [SystemiDotNet] IBM i .NET Interface

Walden

I have great respect for you but this is Boooooring.

Maurice :-)

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[mailto:systemidotnet-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Walden H. Leverich
Sent: 06 August 2012 21:52
To: .net use with the System i
Subject: Re: [SystemiDotNet] IBM i .NET Interface

I have _not_ done an extensive comparison/analysis, but for us the answer is
yes, I prefer log4net. I think it's a simple but powerful, complete and
capable framework. I love the ability to turn on and off logging by class
(assuming you name your loggers in line w/your classes), the interface is
trivial to use and the output logging options are plentiful, though we only
use rollingFile and syslog in production (and Console in some dev utilities)
. It's also a logging framework the Java-heads are familiar with if you need
to integrate with them. And at this point we've got so much code that uses
log4net that I can't imagine changing it :-)

-Walden

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[mailto:systemidotnet-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Craig Pelkie
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 4:45 PM
To: '.net use with the System i'
Subject: Re: [SystemiDotNet] IBM i .NET Interface

Walden

Just for my edification, would you favor log4net over the Framework tracing
provided in System.Diagnostics, and what are some reasons for the choice.

Thanks
Craig Pelkie

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[mailto:systemidotnet-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Walden H. Leverich
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 1:35 PM
To: .net use with the System i
Subject: Re: [SystemiDotNet] IBM i .NET Interface

I like nice simple code that does simple stuff, well done. (That's a
compliment!) :-)

I would however suggest throwing in log4net code, especially where you've
got the catches. I think of log4net as the joblog, and I can't tell you how
many times it's been handy to have a log of what the code was doing at
runtime.

-Walden

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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:systemidotnet-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Wills
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 4:14 PM
To: systemidotnet@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [SystemiDotNet] IBM i .NET Interface

For those that didn't know, I have been working on a .NET interface for some
of the things that could make life easier when working with IBM i data. The
project is at: https://github.com/MikeWills/IBM-i-.NET-Interface

I am fixing little things as I find issues, but overall this has been
working quite well. Feel free to use it and report issues/submit
fixes/features.

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