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ODBC is slow and Crystal reports is slower. We switched from Crystal
reports to excel (using ODBC) which greatly increased our processing
speed. THe downside is that Excel doesn't have all the built in functions
of Crystal reports. For us, the fastest method to query and download
data was to call, from excel, an AS400 program, which selects and
summarizes the data then download this data into excel. We're using this
combination of Excel, visual basic for applications (macros) and AS400 RPG
to do most of our reporting now.
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subject: [SYSTEM21] Access
We are just considering using Access - we are considering copying the data
from the AS400 to a data warehouse nightly and using Access both for
adhoc
queries and for reports.
Has anyone any experience of this/any recommendations?
We had been using Objects but find it cumbersome at times.
Regards,
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EI Electronics
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1. RE: JBA Reporting (Joe Roesch)
2. RE: JBA Reporting (Bill Pinnington)
3. RE: JBA Reporting (Dan Thomas)
4. Accrual Report Problem (Ostrowski, Bruce)
5. Manufacturing Requirements Planning - MPF option 13 (Kate Healy)
6. RE: JBA Reporting (Bill Pinnington)
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date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 09:18:04 -0400
from: Joe Roesch <jroesch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: RE: [SYSTEM21] JBA Reporting
The ODBC link (for Crystal) can become very slow depending upon the table
size accessed from the AS400. Information warehoused in another database,
such as SQL Server or Oracle for example, has exponentially faster access
the larger the data becomes on the AS400. However, this is limited to
data
that is not constantly updated (i.e. pulled hourly or nightly) where real
time is critical.
-----Original Message-----
From: Angus Appleby [mailto:aappleby@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 11:29 AM
To: System 21 Users
Subject: RE: [SYSTEM21] JBA Reporting
I found the ODBC driver quite slow when trying to create Crystal Reports -
how are you connecting to the AS/400?
Angus
"Trask, William" <WTrask@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Crystal Reports is a terrific product. We use Version 8.5, but there is a
newer one out now.
We use it for System 21 and other AS/400 programs - even tying System 21
records with our HR program.
Reports can be dynamic or static - we publish static reports to our
Intranet
site for users.
It also has a built in SQL Wizard which comes in handy sometimes.
----------------------
WW (Bill) Trask
Hensley & Company
Phoenix, AZ
-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Grass [mailto:tgrass@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 5:50 AM
To: system21@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [SYSTEM21] JBA Reporting
We are searching for a better report writing method than query. Has anyone
used the Crystal product and how did it work for you?
Todd Grass
American National Rubber
TGRASS@xxxxxxxxxx
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date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 15:00:11 +0100
from: Bill Pinnington <BPinnington@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: RE: [SYSTEM21] JBA Reporting
Joe,
You can use a product called Transformation Server from Datamirror to
transfer data from your AS/400 to your reporting database (e.g. SQL
Server)
in real time. That way you get much better reporting performance against
real time data, AND free up your 400's CPU for more important stuff.
Regards,
Bill
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Sent: 07 July 2003 14:18
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The ODBC link (for Crystal) can become very slow depending upon the table
size accessed from the AS400. Information warehoused in another database,
such as SQL Server or Oracle for example, has exponentially faster access
the larger the data becomes on the AS400. However, this is limited to
data
that is not constantly updated (i.e. pulled hourly or nightly) where real
time is critical.
-----Original Message-----
From: Angus Appleby [mailto:aappleby@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 11:29 AM
To: System 21 Users
Subject: RE: [SYSTEM21] JBA Reporting
I found the ODBC driver quite slow when trying to create Crystal Reports -
how are you connecting to the AS/400?
Angus
"Trask, William" <WTrask@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: RE: [SYSTEM21] JBA Reporting
Crystal Reports is a terrific product. We use Version 8.5, but there is a
newer one out now.
We use it for System 21 and other AS/400 programs - even tying System 21
records with our HR program.
Reports can be dynamic or static - we publish static reports to our
Intranet
site for users.
It also has a built in SQL Wizard which comes in handy sometimes.
----------------------
WW (Bill) Trask
Hensley & Company
Phoenix, AZ
-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Grass [mailto:tgrass@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 5:50 AM
To: system21@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [SYSTEM21] JBA Reporting
We are searching for a better report writing method than query. Has anyone
used the Crystal product and how did it work for you?
Todd Grass
American National Rubber
TGRASS@xxxxxxxxxx
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date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 10:44:40 -0400
from: Dan Thomas <dthomas@xxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: RE: [SYSTEM21] JBA Reporting
We have been using Transformation server for about three years now and the
performance increase was 10x to 90x depending upon the application. Our
queries are web Active Server Pages and MS Access. We do have a low end
AS/400 (620-2179), but that increase was with a moderately configured SQL
Server box (1 ghz Xeon). We are ordering a new AS/400 810-2466 and a new
SQL Server. I'll post performance comparisons when both new boxes are
installed. I expect the differences to be less pronounced, but still
significant. The nice thing about this setup is that you can optimize the
SQL Server box for queries. It also provides a nice standby system (i.e.
stock locations) if your AS/400 ever goes down. You can set up
Transformation server to send data to multiple SQL Server boxes if your
needs dictate.
One thing to keep in mind is that Transformation server is going to want a
unique key for each file. This is a real challenge for many of the JBA
files. Biggest problems we have run into is INP95, PMP09 and CRP09.
Dan Thomas
Director of Information Technology
MDI
4500 Progress Blvd
Louisville, KY 40218
(502) 318-1208
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From: Bill Pinnington [mailto:BPinnington@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 10:00 AM
To: 'System 21 Users'
Subject: RE: [SYSTEM21] JBA Reporting
Joe,
You can use a product called Transformation Server from Datamirror to
transfer data from your AS/400 to your reporting database (e.g. SQL
Server)
in real time. That way you get much better reporting performance against
real time data, AND free up your 400's CPU for more important stuff.
Regards,
Bill
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From: Joe Roesch [mailto:jroesch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 07 July 2003 14:18
To: 'System 21 Users'
Subject: RE: [SYSTEM21] JBA Reporting
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system.
The ODBC link (for Crystal) can become very slow depending upon the table
size accessed from the AS400. Information warehoused in another database,
such as SQL Server or Oracle for example, has exponentially faster access
the larger the data becomes on the AS400. However, this is limited to
data
that is not constantly updated (i.e. pulled hourly or nightly) where real
time is critical.
-----Original Message-----
From: Angus Appleby [mailto:aappleby@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 11:29 AM
To: System 21 Users
Subject: RE: [SYSTEM21] JBA Reporting
I found the ODBC driver quite slow when trying to create Crystal Reports -
how are you connecting to the AS/400?
Angus
"Trask, William" <WTrask@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent by: system21-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
03/07/2003 16:03
Please respond to System 21 Users
To: "'System 21 Users'" <system21@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
cc:
Subject: RE: [SYSTEM21] JBA Reporting
Crystal Reports is a terrific product. We use Version 8.5, but there is a
newer one out now.
We use it for System 21 and other AS/400 programs - even tying System 21
records with our HR program.
Reports can be dynamic or static - we publish static reports to our
Intranet
site for users.
It also has a built in SQL Wizard which comes in handy sometimes.
----------------------
WW (Bill) Trask
Hensley & Company
Phoenix, AZ
-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Grass [mailto:tgrass@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 5:50 AM
To: system21@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [SYSTEM21] JBA Reporting
We are searching for a better report writing method than query. Has anyone
used the Crystal product and how did it work for you?
Todd Grass
American National Rubber
TGRASS@xxxxxxxxxx
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message: 4
date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 10:00:31 -0500
from: "Ostrowski, Bruce" <BOSTROWSKI@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: [SYSTEM21] Accrual Report Problem
Has anyone every had a problem with the accruals report being incorrect.
It
looks like the PO has been received and matched, but the accruals report
still shows the PO line item. It look like the PMP09 record has not been
updated. Any ideas on how to fix or verify what records need fixed. Any
help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Bruce
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message: 5
date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:21:04 +0100
from: Kate Healy <Kate.Healy@xxxxxxxx>
subject: [SYSTEM21] Manufacturing Requirements Planning - MPF option
13
Is there anyway of uploading data from Excel to MPF? We find that
maintaining the item forecast is very time consuming. We have 100
different
models, and tend to enter details for 26 weeks at a time.
Is there any other approach that will have the same end result?
Regards,
Kate Healy.
Ei Electronics
Phone: +353 61 471277
Fax: +353 61 471140
Homepage: www.eielectronics.com
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message: 6
date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:21:45 +0100
from: Bill Pinnington <BPinnington@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: RE: [SYSTEM21] JBA Reporting
Dan,
We also suffer from a lack of unique key on all JBA files, INP95 and PMP09
being prime examples as you say. You can work round this by using the
Relative Record Number (RRN) which gives you a unique key. It works well,
but watch out after archiving when you reorg your files!!!
Regards,
Bill
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Sent: 07 July 2003 15:45
To: 'System 21 Users'
Subject: RE: [SYSTEM21] JBA Reporting
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We have been using Transformation server for about three years now and the
performance increase was 10x to 90x depending upon the application. Our
queries are web Active Server Pages and MS Access. We do have a low end
AS/400 (620-2179), but that increase was with a moderately configured SQL
Server box (1 ghz Xeon). We are ordering a new AS/400 810-2466 and a new
SQL Server. I'll post performance comparisons when both new boxes are
installed. I expect the differences to be less pronounced, but still
significant. The nice thing about this setup is that you can optimize the
SQL Server box for queries. It also provides a nice standby system (i.e.
stock locations) if your AS/400 ever goes down. You can set up
Transformation server to send data to multiple SQL Server boxes if your
needs dictate.
One thing to keep in mind is that Transformation server is going to want a
unique key for each file. This is a real challenge for many of the JBA
files. Biggest problems we have run into is INP95, PMP09 and CRP09.
Dan Thomas
Director of Information Technology
MDI
4500 Progress Blvd
Louisville, KY 40218
(502) 318-1208
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From: Bill Pinnington [mailto:BPinnington@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 10:00 AM
To: 'System 21 Users'
Subject: RE: [SYSTEM21] JBA Reporting
Joe,
You can use a product called Transformation Server from Datamirror to
transfer data from your AS/400 to your reporting database (e.g. SQL
Server)
in real time. That way you get much better reporting performance against
real time data, AND free up your 400's CPU for more important stuff.
Regards,
Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Roesch [mailto:jroesch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 07 July 2003 14:18
To: 'System 21 Users'
Subject: RE: [SYSTEM21] JBA Reporting
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The ODBC link (for Crystal) can become very slow depending upon the table
size accessed from the AS400. Information warehoused in another database,
such as SQL Server or Oracle for example, has exponentially faster access
the larger the data becomes on the AS400. However, this is limited to
data
that is not constantly updated (i.e. pulled hourly or nightly) where real
time is critical.
-----Original Message-----
From: Angus Appleby [mailto:aappleby@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 11:29 AM
To: System 21 Users
Subject: RE: [SYSTEM21] JBA Reporting
I found the ODBC driver quite slow when trying to create Crystal Reports -
how are you connecting to the AS/400?
Angus
"Trask, William" <WTrask@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent by: system21-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
03/07/2003 16:03
Please respond to System 21 Users
To: "'System 21 Users'" <system21@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
cc:
Subject: RE: [SYSTEM21] JBA Reporting
Crystal Reports is a terrific product. We use Version 8.5, but there is a
newer one out now.
We use it for System 21 and other AS/400 programs - even tying System 21
records with our HR program.
Reports can be dynamic or static - we publish static reports to our
Intranet
site for users.
It also has a built in SQL Wizard which comes in handy sometimes.
----------------------
WW (Bill) Trask
Hensley & Company
Phoenix, AZ
-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Grass [mailto:tgrass@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 5:50 AM
To: system21@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [SYSTEM21] JBA Reporting
We are searching for a better report writing method than query. Has anyone
used the Crystal product and how did it work for you?
Todd Grass
American National Rubber
TGRASS@xxxxxxxxxx
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