FW: Can anyone comment on the reliability of the archive utility s inJBA? -- SYSTEM21

        David mentions the use of RRN processing below and the care that
must be taken when re-using deleted records.  Good advice.  We have
uncovered some purchasing files that process by RRN.  I'd like to ask the
group if anyone out there has put together any kind of a list of files that
utilize RRN?

Michael Godson
Programmer / Analyst
Hach Company
Loveland, CO  80539


-----Original Message-----
From: David Shea [mailto:dshea@arctools.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 6:45 AM
To: JBAUSERS-L@midrange.com
Subject: Can anyone comment on the reliability of the archive utilitie s
s inJBA?


This didn't go through the first time, so I'll try again...

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Shea" <dshea@arctools.com>
To: <JBAUSERS-L@midrange.com>
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: Can anyone comment on the reliability of the archive utilitie s
s inJBA?


> WARNING - this method will work, but beware... you should NEVER kick off a
> reorg job unless you have a pretty good idea how much time it will take.
If
> you start reorg-ing a humongous file with millions of records and lots of
> logicals built on top, you could be in for a LONG wait.  Plus, if you
start
> reorg-ing some huge beast, this is not something that can be stopped.  You
> _have_ to let it finish.  If you reorg takes three days, you're screwed.
> This should work fine if you've got reasonable file sizes, but if you've
got
> a lot of data, watch out.
>
> Instead, you might want to put the results of this program's DSPFD command
> into a file, then use query to review it.  Look for files with high
> percentages of deleted records.  Reorg some of the smaller ones first to
get
> a feel for the time requirements.  Work your way up the chain, slowly and
> carefully.  Choose some percentage value as a cutoff, below which the
> benefit of reorg-ing may not be worth it. Don't reorg if you only have a
few
> deleted records.  The old 80/20 rule probably applies -if there's 20
percent
> deleted records, maybe it's worth it.
>
> But - if you've got some of these huge beasts that may take days to reorg,
> you really need to do it at some point (this is why we in the IS business
> never get any long weekends, right?).  Once it's reorg-ed, consider either
> reorg-ing on a regular basis or using REUSEDLT to keep the wasted space
> down.  Be careful with REUSEDLT, though too, because some apps run some
> things by RRN.
>
>
> From: <CMassoglia@dawnfoods.com>
> To: <JBAUSERS-L@midrange.com>
> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 2:09 PM
> Subject: RE: Can anyone comment on the reliability of the archive utilitie
s
> s inJBA?
>
>
> >
> > This is a utility we use to reorganize all files.  We got back 5+GB.  We
> > have also changed physical files to REUSEDLT(*YES).
> >
> > Command RGZALLPFM:
> > /*
*/
> > /*  RGZALLPFM - REORGANIZE ALL PHYSICAL FILES
*/
> > /*              COMMAND PROCCESSING PROGRAM - RGZALLPFMC
*/
> > /*  21 MAR 90 - CLM
*/
> > /*
*/
> > /* COPYRIGHT 1990 ALL RIGHTS RESERVED                           */
> > /* MPH, INC., OKEMOS, MI USA                                    */
> > /*                                                              */
> >              CMD        PROMPT('Reorganize all physical files')
> >
<snip>

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