RE: Slow AOE -- SYSTEM21

Sidenote:

We have experienced similar problems with orders with many detail lines.
I've found that the issue is inherent to the design of AOE, and it's not
practical to attempt to improve the performance much.

IMO, the answer is to beef up your hardware or purchase a different software
package.

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Jim Sehi
Sr. Programmer/Analyst
Hach Company
5600 Lindbergh Drive
Loveland, Colorado  80538

Email:  jsehi@hach.com
Phone:  970-663-1377  x2538
Fax:    970-669-2932
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-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Thomas [mailto:DThomas@lpw-mdi.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 3:02 PM
To: 'JBAusers-l@midrange.com'
Subject: Slow AOE


There is no doubt that AOE is a performance hog, but it does run OK on our
system (620 / 2179 w/ 1GB RAM) which is lightly loaded.  We do need many of
the features provided by AOE, so for us it is the only alternative.  We've
noticed it takes a long time (5+ seconds) to load an large order (25+ lines)
for amendment, but haven't had complaints about initial entry of a large
order.  It reprices each line every time you amend an order.  It also checks
for credit issues that might cause an order to be suspended.  IMO, it would
take a lot of resources to "improve" AOE to make it faster and you would be
better off buying more hardware.  It is a huge, complicated suite of program
that doesn't use many shared routines.  Angus, it would be interesting to
hear your machine configuration, typical number of active users, size of
orders with problems and the response time you are experiencing.

Dan Thomas
Sr. VP Information Systems
Medical Distribution, Inc.
4500 Progress Blvd
Louisville, KY  40218-5058
Phone (502) 454-9013 ext 120
email  DThomas@lpw-mdi.com


-----Original Message-----
From: David Shea [mailto:dshea@arctools.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 10:05 AM
To: JBAUSERS-L@midrange.com
Subject: Re: System pools


Angus:

Try the performance adjustment.  Generally, it's pretty good.

Does order entry run acceptably for small orders?  Define 'many lines'...
10? 100? 1000?

You need to do a couple things to figure out where your performance problems
are coming from.  Does the software do any SQL or OPNQRYF?  Watch the jobs
as they run.  Do you see very high CPU but little I/O?  High CPU and low I/O
reeks of logical file problems - you're either building them (SQL or
OPNQRYF), or rebuilding them (LF with the REBLD option turned on).  Or, are
you seeing record locks?  In this case, you'll see LCKW on WRKACTJOB.

One way to speed things up is to get rid of old data.  You might have files
that simply need to be reorganized, or you might see significant performance
improvement by purging and archiving data.  Check out
http://www.arctools.com .  ARCTOOLS is a disk optimization utility that can
help you reorganize the files you've got, and it will also help you purge
and/or archive your data.  If you have an existing purge-only routine, it
will add the archiving feature without programming.  If you don't have a
purge routine for a particular file, it can purge and archive data without
programming and without locking files.

Good luck.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Angus Appleby - Unwins Seeds" <aappleby@unwins-seeds.co.uk>
To: <JBAUSERS-L@midrange.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 5:44 AM
Subject: System pools


Hi

We have terrible problems with the speed of entering orders using advanced
order entry because we have many orders and many lines on each order. We
have just upgraded our memory to 896Mb to try and alleviate this, and have
been recommended to leave the performance adjuster on at all times. Does
anyone else have similar problems? How do you set your pool sizes?

Angus

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