Here's where we are coming from:
Each of these companies have their own data library, program library and 
query library.  For example:
and so on..
Each library has their own authorization list.
Some employees actually do work for more than one company.
Need further explanation?  I don't want to flood you with information when 
that might be enough to explain it.

We actually have so many files that it is impossible for SSA to own all of 
them.  There is a limit to how many objects one user may own.  Actually 
that was the straw that got us securing each companies data file library 

Rob Berendt
Group Dekko Services, LLC
Dept 01.073
PO Box 2000
Dock 108
6928N 400E
Kendallville, IN 46755

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Don't quite understand where you are coming from.  Does every application
have it's own library?  Do you have one library for AP, one for AR, ect?

What do Betty, Sam, Peter, and Julie do?

As I understand it, the idea is a group profiles groups users of similar
needs.  So my users doing receiving are all in one group, my accounting
people are all in another group.  I even stick users by themselves into a
group.  Why? Simple really,  if I ever need to add a user, or the user is
replaced then it's just a matter of copying a profile.  Since the 
to the objects are given to the group via the authorization list, I don't
need to update the authorization lists for the new user.

An example from my own setup:

I have the following group profiles:
GRPACEMPLY               Accounting Dept--full access 
GRPACINTRN               Accounting Dept--limited access for interns 
GRPPUEMPLY               Purchasing Dept--full access 

And here are the authorization lists:
ACLIMIT                  Accounting Limited Access 
                                                 GRPACEMPLY *USE 
                                                 GRPACINTRN *USE 
                                                 *PUBLIC *EXCLUDE 
ACRESTRICT               Accounting Restricted Access 
                                                 GRPACEMPLY *USE 
                                                 *PUBLIC *EXCLUDE 
VENDMAINT                Vendor Maintenance Access 
                                                 GRPACEMPLY *USE 
                                                 GRPPUEMPLY *USE 
                                                 *PUBLIC *EXCLUDE 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: rob@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:rob@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 1:24 PM
> To: Security Administration on the AS400 / iSeries
> Subject: RE: [Security400] Documenting / Managing iSeries security
> On issue 1.  I agree that owner profiles shouldn't be any 
> part of a group 
> profile.  Instead authorization lists should be used.  We're 
> moving in 
> that direction.
> On issue 2.  We had a team of IBMers dialed in to resolve the 
> length of 
> the SAVSYS.  Soon as we started blasting the supplemental groups it 
> started behaving again.  The supplemental groups were increasing the 
> private authorities.  PRTPVTAUT was used.
> I fail to see how you would like group profiles and still 
> feel that an 
> owner shouldn't be a group profile.
> How would group profiles help in the following case:
> Betty should have access to libraries X and Z.
> Sam should have access to libraries Y and Z.
> Peter should have access to only library X.
> Julie should have access to libraries X and Y.
> In our case each library has their own owner and their own 
> authorization 
> list.  We put Betty in authorization lists X and Y, Sam in Y 
> and Z, Peter 
> in X and Julie in X and Y.  We use authorization lists instead of the 
> object itself so that the objects within that library can be 
> secured with 
> that same authorization list.  Makes it easier to add/ delete 
> new users 
> and/or objects within the library.
> Rob Berendt
> -- 
> Group Dekko Services, LLC
> Dept 01.073
> PO Box 2000
> Dock 108
> 6928N 400E
> Kendallville, IN 46755
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