Re: RPG and AI

Hi Dave,

Am 16.10.2024 um 06:38 schrieb Dave <dfx1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:

Chat GPT, I don't know anything else.
I'm completely new to AI, I haven't been following what's going on at all.
I don't know what an LLM even is.

Well - you should read about it a bit. AI is a trend now, and because the software companies and consultants see an opportunity to make serious money out of it, it won't go away soon.

The trend will end like the "everything mobile" or "everything cloud" trends - with harsh realities and the insight, that an awful lot of money was burned without a real business value.

I was looking for a way to convert a JSON schema to tables and fell upon a
JSON converter for ChatGPT.
Anyway, I copied and pasted a complex schema in the chat and after a while
it confirmed it was complicated and asked if I would like to see
information about specific objects.

Here I have some questions. Did Chat-GPT give you back some sort of analysis of the JSON schema? In form of objects and relationships?

I was able to give it the objects I was
interested in, and copy the result directly into a spreadsheet.

OK sounds interesting.

After
analysis, I gave it back the spreadsheet data and asked it to create
physical files (using the json names as aliases while generating its own
field names from these) and a basic program that read from the file.

Did it create DDS or SQL/DDL specifications?
What do you mean with a "basic program" - simply trivial code with READ loop?

I needed fixed form code so I specified RPG400. Came back with a lot of
Z-ADD and MOVE operations. I said go and do it again with EVAL and it did.

This might be a time saver. But did you verify that the program indeed works as intended?

I experimented only a bit with AI - after being presented some definitively wrong program code for somehow trivial problems, I lost interest some weeks ago. It's simply easier and faster to write that code myself, that to let an artificial "junior developer" write it, and then trying to understand, verify and correct it.

Don't get me wrong - if I have a real junior developer with me, this is something that needs to be done - that junior needs feedback and training - fine.

But an AI? I train it, so the company can sell me back my own knowledge? No thanks.

Just my 2ct.
Daniel

On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 at 19:03, Dave <dfx1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I've only just discovered it and it makes me wish I could have my career
all over again.

I've been copying and pasting spreadsheet tables and telling it to
generate the DDS and write an RPG program with the cycle that reads one
file and populates another all from the spreadsheet.
For procedure logic, I've been copying and pasting pseudocode, I don't
even have to tell it that it's in French.

Once it generated program code before I gave it my table. I told it I
hadn't yet done so, it replied OK send me the table and I'll do it again.

Astonishing

On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 at 12:15, Dave <dfx1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hello,

Has there been any discussion on using AI to code RPG applications?
Would be grateful if anyone could point me to the thread as I didn't find
anything.
Thanks