Re: AW:RPG and AI

What AI tools do you use?
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Subject: AW:RPG and AI

I use it often. But I check the result by own knowledge and another AI
tools. Sometimes it's necessary to verify and ask again. Better results
for JS or Java.

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Von: Jim Oberholtzer <midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Datum: Mo., 14. Okt. 2024, 16:00
An: RPG programming on IBM i <rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Betreff: Re: RPG and AI

I’m not suggesting good or bad. Just that IBM is trying to build its
model.

Personally I don’t think a code generator can be nearly as efficient as
a human. Maybe by laying out all the basics and allowing human to fill
in the business logic.

Jim Oberholtzer
Agile Technology Architects

> On Oct 14, 2024, at 8:10 AM, Brad Stone <bvstone@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> What does this mean for open source? Or was open source the thing
that
> made AI do pretty ok with generating programs?
>
> ;)
>
> Just sayin...
>
>> On Mon, Oct 14, 2024 at 7:57 AM Jim Oberholtzer
<midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>> IBM is looking for code samples to run their model against.
>>
>> So yes IBM is on it
>>
>> Jim Oberholtzer
>> Agile Technology Architects
>>
>>>> On Oct 14, 2024, at 5:16 AM, Dave <dfx1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Has there been any discussion on using AI to code RPG applications?
>>> Would be grateful if anyone could point me to the thread as I didn't
find
>>> anything.
>>> Thanks
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