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You are talking about what happens when "using" a FieldProc, versus what happens when we issue "ALTER TABLE" to add a FieldProc to an existing column of a table.
I believe the OP gets this error on the ALTER TABLE, so the ALTER TABLE never completes, so he is nver able to get "that far" (using a FieldProc ...).
Hi Mike
Thanks for the clarification. It leaves me with a question, does a field have to be non-numeric in order for a FIELDPROC to work correctly.
This goes back to the reason I was asked to write that OA handler. IBM had suggested it to Patrick Townsend when the order of records returned was incorrect when one of the key fields had a FIELDPROC on it. In a simplistic way, it seems that SQL does the decryption on the field, then does the sort on the decrypted values. I believe I can describe RPG's process as reading the file in the key order, but it is reading it with encrypted values. Then it decrypts the values.
So I wonder if, in your case, RPG is pulling the encrypted value into a buffer or some such where that field is defined as numeric - hence the message. And using SQL instead of RLA might get the decryption done first. This does seem to fit the scenario you describe.
But I might be off somewhere, so verify if you can, maybe using SQL for IO.
Good luck and stay well!
Vern
On 3/24/2020 7:45 AM, Mike Jones wrote:
Hi Vernon,
It means field procedure programs can't run SQL statements. It also means
field procedure programs can't call other commands or programs that run SQL
statements. This even applies to calling IBM commands and programs.
IBM's V7R3 SQL Reference manual page 1175, for the CREATE TABLE statements
for the FIELDPROC attribute says "Designates an external-program-name as
the field procedure exit routine for the column. It must be an ILE program
that does not contain SQL. It cannot be a service program."
I tried to make a field procedure program that would largely self-deploy,
where it would create a key store file (via IBM's API), and generate /
populate it with an encryption key, but calling the API to create a key
store file would not run. When I looked into why, it was because IBM's API
to create a key store file runs SQL, and I found documentation that you
can't do that.
I don't know why it is like that, just that it is.
Perhaps using an Open Access handler is a workaround, I don't know.
Those were my findings at the V7R3 level. I've not tried it on V7R4.
Mike
On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 9:39 PM Vernon Hamberg <vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Mike - I'm not sure exactly what your statement means. If you mean that
the programs themselves can't have embedded SQL, that's something I
don't know.
Now what I do know is that if a key field has a FIELDPROC added to it,
that the resulting order in RPG is probably incorrect. I wrote an Open
Access handler to turn all DISK IO in RPG into SQL statements - only
change in the RPG is to add the handler to the F-spec. I wrote this for
Townsend Security (this was publicly announced, so no secrets being
revealed here), I believe there is a relationship now with Syncsort, if
anyone has a need for this - I'm not working for either company, so this
is not a <verndor option>!!
Vern
On 3/23/2020 11:00 PM, Mike Jones wrote:
Nathanhandful
Field proc programs don't yet allow the use of any SQL. They also don't
yet support calling a program or command that directly or indirectly runs
SQL statements. Example: you can't call IBM's API to create a key store
file, from inside a field procedure program, because that API runs SQL in
its plumbing.
I've gotten all that encryption field procedure stuff to work well, but i
was a PITA getting it all to work. I utilized code from at least a
of sample programs.encryption
- AES 256-bit encryption
- DEKs (data encryption keys) stored in key store files.
- Using KEKs (key encrypting keys) to encrypt the DEKs (data
keys), also stored in key store files.retrieved
- Using master keys to encrypt the key store files.
- Using tokens with the encryption APIs so the keys can't be
even under debug.types
If you're trying to take a zoned decimal number, encrypt it, and store it
in the database, you need to store the result in:
- A CHAR or VARCHAR column with the FOR BIT DATA attribute applied,
which uses CCSID 65535.
- A BINARY column
- A VARBINARY column
- A BLOB column
- Or the DDS file defined equivalent of one of the above.
The encrypted data is a binary string that requires one of those data
to store the results. Encrypted data doesn't conform to the set of hexcolumn,
values that are allowable for storage in a zoned or packed decimal
Get the IBM Redbook "IBM System i Security: Protecting i5/OS Data withtalk
Encryption". In the July 2008 version of that book, see chapter 7
"Database Considerations", section 7.2, pages 78 and 79 in particular,
about storage requirements of the encrypted data.COLUMN),
Another great PDF book is "Protecting IBM i data with encryption" by Kent
Milligan and Beth Hagemeister (March 2014). Read pages 31 through 33 for
storage requirements.
When you apply the field procedure to a column (ALTER TABLE ALTER
it calls the field procedure to encrypt that column for ALL rows of thedata
table.
When you drop a field procedure from a column (ALTER TABLE ALTER COLUMN),
it calls the field procedure to decrypt that column for ALL rows of the
table.
I imagine a field procedure could be used for a non-encryption purpose,
although I've not tried that (no use case comes to mind at the moment).
Assuming that is allowed, a field procedure that returns zoned decimal
for storage in a zoned decimal column is fine to do, but not withencrypted
data.don't
HTH,
Mike
On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 4:48 PM Vernon Hamberg <vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
wrote:
Nathan
Is the numeric column in question a key of the file? Are you using
native record-level access? If either, then RPG might give you problems.
I thought it was only with keyed columns, but maybe not.
You might try using SQL to process the file.
Vern
On 3/23/2020 3:26 PM, Nathan Hughes wrote:
First I want to apologize for my ignorance in RPGLE...we typically
resolution.use this programming language, but have to for FieldProc purposes. I've
researched this issue for a couple weeks now, and cannot find a
theI'm currently trying to write a field procedure program. I have taken
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledg...yfpexample.htm<IBM RPGLE example (
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/ssw_ibm_i_73/sqlp/rbafyfpexample.htm),I
and started to modify it to work for us.
Here is the table that was created for testing purposes:varchar, char, blob, etc., but I needed to add zoned numeric. To begin,
********** Beginning of data *************************************
A R REC
A ECNUM 16S 0 COLHDG('NUMBER')
A ALIAS(EC_NUMBER)
A ECALPHA 32A COLHDG('ALPHA')
A ALIAS(EC_ALPHA)
************* End of data ****************************************
The program from the link above allows for several SQL types, clob,
addingstudied and stepped through the program to see what it was doing, and
thought I had a good understanding of how it worked. I then started
awhat appeared as necessary for the SQL_TYP_ZONED (488).
When I send the 'ALTER TABLE' command and set the FieldProc program on
Anycolumn, the first call is to Register(function code: 8), the next is
Encode(function code: 0) to encode the values in said column.
I set a breakpoint at the end of the program, and evaluated theparameters when setting the FieldProc on a VARCHAR and ZONED NUMERIC
columns, and besides being different data types all appears correct, but
the ZONED NUMERIC column abruptly stops with the error below after the
register call.
Message ID . . . . . . : SQL0685data.
Date sent . . . . . . : 03/18/20 Time sent . . . . . . : 16:17:04
Message . . . . : Field procedure on column ECNUM has returned invalid
Cause . . . . . : Field procedure on column ECNUM has returned invaliddata.
Recovery . . . : Change the field procedure to return valid data.is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain
Thank you in advance for any help you can give on this.
Thanks,
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