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To offer an alternative view, as I expect a lot of resistance.

I've been forced to move outside of the IBM i spectrum lately, and have had to adapt to an agile environment.
There are advantages to the basic agile principles, smaller incremental improvements and short iterations. I especially like the early feedback and seeing my work have impact earlier. You also feel like you're working on the most important stuff first.

The move to the new way of working will be hard, if not impossible, without a structural company change. I feel for the change manager. Don't get stuck on some of the techniques (like pair programming) and throw out the good with the bad.

If I can give you one recommendation, I would recommend reading the book "The Phoenix project" by Gene Kim. While it's more oriented towards CI/CD, it touches on why agile principles are important. It even references midrange systems. 😉
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From: RPG400-L <rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Jay <tegger@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, 20 July 2018 22:32
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion; RPG programming on the IBM i (AS/400 and iSeries)
Subject: Re: Agile coming to our shop (supposedly)

Sounds like you are in my company.

We're migrating to STORIS from the iSeries because the geniuses at the top think it is better. Well, they didn't realize that they are losing far more than they are gaining, the costs will be ongoing, any issues come with a cost, and any software enhancements will come at a very high price.

The days of just walking down the hall to my office for a data fix or software issue will be gone.

The funny part is the new software is way behind our software. Our system does stuff they say can't happen. I guess AIX and Windows X are more limiting than anything else.


On July 19, 2018 at 10:52 PM Dan <dan27649@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


(Cross-posted to RPG & Midrange lists)

So, our newish manager threw out this bone at a recent team standup. I
have no experience with Agile, although early in my tenure at a large
insurance company, our iSeries folks worked in the same office as the web
dev team, which was described to be full-on Agile. They were also known as
the Agile team, so there's that.

I remember reading this thread 5 years ago:
https://archive.midrange.com/rpg400-l/201310/msg00393.html
Never gave it much more thought, since it has never come up in that time.

I'm not sure where the impetus for trying to "implement" Agile is coming
from. This company has always treated IT as a liability. The tenured i
developers here feel that they are set up to fail, with new overhead
responsibilities but with the same tight deadlines to get projects
completed. Any new "philosophy" like Agile will be met with
Superman-strength resistance. I laughed when I read about "paired
development", cuz heads would explode if that were ever tried here. The
tenured devs and the new contractors they just recently brought on are
absolute old-school, monolithic developers, for whom 2000+ lines of
mainline code are standard fare. Service programs are avoided like the
plague. I developed a service program last year with functions that could
be used in almost every day development, but I am the only one who uses
them.

I am curious if there are any old-school iSeries shops with "heels dug in"
devs who have attempted to "implement" any part of the Agile philosophy,
and how that went.

- Dan
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