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Re: procedures, dftactgrp and cursors staying open

It can be...

But the job & the operation must be configured to wait at least 1 sec or so
for the lock to be cleared.

You can also issue a ALCOBJ CONFLICT(*RQSRLS) prior to whatever operation
you're trying.

In the case of CLRPFM, switch to an SQL DELETE is a better option IMHO.

Charles

On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 9:10 AM, Craig Richards <craig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Alan,

I'd never heard this described as "soft lock" before but your description
fitted with my experience.

I was just testing a program today, which showed that the Operating System
will only release the "soft lock" if the process that needs to use the
table for RGZPFM etc is the same job that has the "soft lock".
Is this also your understanding?

Specifically -
I have a program ( running in named Activation Group ) which does a few
INSERT INTO ... WITH NC statements.

Once the program ends with *INLR, WRKOBJLCK shows locks on the 3 files I
inserted records into.

I can clear those 3 files in the job that inserted the records, but not in
other jobs.

Normally I try to arrange it so that programs are run from a menu which
will then Reclaim the Named Activation Group to close everything down at
the end of the base program, but not everything is run that way.

So this makes me think I might have to consider the programs not called
that way to close the cursor at *ENDMOD....

Pfft, for some reason I thought the "soft lock" could be released by ANY
job.

regards,
Craig

On 18 March 2018 at 23:03, Alan Campin <alan0307d@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

SQL Cursors are always soft closed unless you either have an error. The
operating system will maintain a lock on the table and the ODP(Open Data
Path) will remind open if possible.

If you use Close Cursor *ENDMOD and the module ends or you use *ENDACTGRP
and the activation group ends, cursor will be hard closed.

By soft close, what we mean is the cursor is left open and the lock is
soft
which means if some process needs to use the table, the operating system
will release the lock. For example, you wanted to do a RGZPFM. With a
hard
open, you cannot do this. If the cursor has been closed soft, the OS will
release the lock, close the ODP and do the reorg.


On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 2:08 PM, Craig Richards <craig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Yes

That’s what I was talking about in the beginning.

On Sun, 18 Mar 2018 at 20:36, Dave <dfx1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Maybe the cursor is closed, but with Exec Sql close cursor, dspjob
shows
a
lock still in place on the table. I think this is normal behaviour
when
opened in the dftactgrp. With CloSqlCsr, I don't have the lock at the
end
of the program.

2018-03-18 18:12 GMT+01:00 Craig Richards <craig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:

CloSqlCsr - as described in this thread is referring to the way the
*Module
is created.

Instructing the system to close the SQL cursors for you when the
module
ends.

I suppose you could say it is a safeguard to make sure that no
cursors
can
be accidentally be left open once the *module is exited.

If you have taken care to manually close any cursors using Exec Sql
close
cursor, then it won't be doing anything for you.


On 18 March 2018 at 16:49, Dave <dfx1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Thanks, the CloSqlCsr is what I needed. Actually, I have yet to
be
in
the
situation when having the cursor stay open after the program ends
was
worth
more than the potentiel problems it can cause. A thing I'm still
not
clear
on is, what's the difference between "close cursor" as you would
do
before
reopening it, for example, and CloSqlCsr?

Craig, RCLRSC will not work and I believe this is documented
I'm in the dftactgrp which wasn't completely clear in my op. I
wanted
to
be
able to compile but still have my program run in the dftactgrp.
Thanks

2018-03-16 16:18 GMT+01:00 Glenn Gundermann <
glenn.gundermann@xxxxxxxxx
:

Hi Dave,

If you are referring to a SQLRPGLE program, then this is what I
have
in
mine:

// Set SQL options.
EXEC SQL
SET OPTION
CloSqlCsr = *ENDMOD,
Commit = *NONE,
DatFmt = *ISO,
Naming = *SYS;

It was pointed out on this forum by Birgitta and maybe others
that
CloSqlCsr = *ENDMOD isn't the most efficient if you call the
program
repeatedly. Each person's case is different but you can
experiment.

Hope this helps.


Yours truly,

Glenn Gundermann
Email: glenn.gundermann@xxxxxxxxx
Work: (905) 486-1162 x 239
Cell: (416) 317-3144


On 16 March 2018 at 10:07, Dave <dfx1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hello all,

I’ve arrived at a new company and run into a bit of a fix.
Hard
to
believe,
but there are no development standards and everyone seems to
do
as
he
pleases. Most are still writing new programs in fixed form
RPG.
As
I’ve
had
to work alone with very little time or coaching, I’ve done
as I
always
have, preferring sub procedures to subroutines. When I came
to
compiling
I
got blocked by the error caused by not specifying
dftactgrp(*no),
which
I’d
forgotten about (I’ve been away a long time). To get round
this, I
specified the value **no, and added actgrp(**caller) in the
h-specs.

During testing, when I noticed that my files and cursors were
remaining
open (and remembered also this behavior), it suddenly hit me
why
up
till
now I’ve only come across dynamic program calls in this
shop. I
can
get
round the problem of the files, but can’t see a way of
closing
my
cursors.
Can anybody advise me? Should I just convert all my
procedures
to
back
to
routines?

*Thanks *
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