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ROTFL - Yes - more than a little challenging!


Jon Paris

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On Mar 20, 2018, at 2:17 AM, Henrik Rützou <hr@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Jon,

generally speaking the world isn't so simple that many "Hello World" demos
would like os to believe and I still occasionel gets feature request to
powerEXT so I havent seen the last variation of transforming and twisting
data yet. I had myself a customer that ran a very strict format of a XML
invoice that was validated agaist a name-space and Scematronic so there
where no posibility to add extra elements with bilatteral data, but there
was a text section, so what we did was that we included a JSON string in
the text-section so it held both text and data embedded in JSON - now try
to map that in the recieving end ;-)

On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 5:08 AM, Jon Paris <jon.paris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I agree it could be done with options etc. but they could never be as
generic I suspect as those of XML-INTO. I was just trying to point out
that it seem trivial until you realize that somebody else makes the rules
and you re trying to generate something that matches. This is particularly
true it seems to me with JSON where the rules are more liberal.

All I know is that COBOL has had the kind of facility that Barbara
describes and it goes largely unused because it cannot readily produce the
formats defined by web service providers etc. without pre-processing. If
you get to define the format of the JSON and XML yourself it is a different
story.


Jon Paris

www.partner400.com
www.SystemiDeveloper.com

On Mar 19, 2018, at 2:46 PM, Mark Murphy <jmarkmurphy@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I don't know about that. XML-INTO handles missing or extra elements, and
name spaces with options and prefixes. DATA/XML-FROM could work
similarly.
For example:

Options could define an attributePrefix=atr_ then

dcl-ds accounts;
dcl-ds account dim(99);
Id char(6);
name char(30);
end-ds;
end-ds;

Should result in:

<accounts>
<account>
<id>xxxxxx</id>
<name>name stuff</name>
</accoun>
<account>
<id>yyyyyy</id>
<name>name stuff</name>
</accoun>
....
</accounts>

and

dcl-ds accounts;
dcl-ds account dim(99);
atr_Id char(6);
name char(30);
end-ds;
end-ds;

Should result in:

<accounts>
<account "id=xxxxxx">
<name>name stuff</name>
</accoun>
<account "id=yyyyyy">
<name>name stuff</name>
</accoun>
....
</accounts>

Blank character fields could result in a missing element. Likewise
numeric
elements with a value of 0 could result in a missing element. Or an
option
could control that. A count field with a prefix option could be used to
specify the number of elements to produce for multiple elements.

I would expect generation of JSON to be even easier as there are only a
few
ways to create valid JSON as opposed to XML. JSON has no name-space to
deal
with, and no schemas either. There is no need to differentiate between
attributes and values, JSON has only values. JSON always starts with an
object which is a collection of name:value pairs. A name is always a
string. A value can be a string, a number, a list, or an object. A list
is
a collection of values. A string is surrounded by double quotes, a number
isn't. An object is surrounded by curly braces, and a list is surrounded
by
square brackets. That is the whole spec.

On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 3:15 PM, Jon Paris <jon.paris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Easier said than done Mark.

COBOL has an XML generation capability built in - but most of the time
you
still need to transform it before it can be used.

For example - given a DS like this:

dcl-ds accounts;
dcl-ds account dim(99);
Id char(6);
name char(30);
end-ds;
end-ds;

Should that result in:

<accounts>
<account>
<id>xxxxxx</id>
<name>name stuff</name>
</accoun>
<account>
<id>yyyyyy</id>
<name>name stuff</name>
</accoun>
....
</accounts>

Or

<accounts>
<account "id=xxxxxx">
<name>name stuff</name>
</accoun>
<account "id=yyyyyy">
<name>name stuff</name>
</accoun>
....
</accounts>


And that is just a trivial example. I suspect for JSON it would be even
worse as the rules are not as strict as for XML and people do really
strange things.


Jon Paris

www.partner400.com
www.SystemiDeveloper.com

On Mar 19, 2018, at 9:22 AM, Mark Murphy <jmarkmurphy@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Great, now all we need to complete that picture is a DATA-FROM (and
maybe
even an XML-FROM) to make it simple to produce JSON or whatever data
interchange format from a data structure.

On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 4:55 PM, Barbara Morris <bmorris@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

On 2018-03-16 11:35 AM, Barbara Morris wrote:

The latest enhancement for RPG is available for 7.2 and 7.3: The
DATA-INTO opcode. It's like XML-INTO, but for any structured
language,
such
as JSON. The big difference between DATA-INTO and XML-INTO is that
you
have
to supply the parser for the structured language.


Here's a article by Jon Paris about DATA-INTO:
http://ibmsystemsmag.com/ibmi/developer/rpg/rpg-data-into/


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