RE: Clarified interview question (programming puzzle) -- RPG400-L

If the recruiter knows the answer, then he can forewarn his client. I think that would negate the reason for the test.

But it sure makes me (us?) curious.

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From: RPG400-L [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark Murphy/STAR BASE Consulting Inc.
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 12:52 PM
To: RPG programming on the IBM i (AS/400 and iSeries) <rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Clarified interview question (programming puzzle)

Maybe the recruiter needs to ask the client why so many people are failing. We certainly can't answer that question. Unless someone here has developed so sort of clairvoyant superpowers.

Mark Murphy
STAR BASE Consulting, Inc.
mmurphy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

-----Alan Campin <alan0307d@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: -----
To: "RPG programming on the IBM i (AS/400 and iSeries)" <rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: Alan Campin <alan0307d@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: 07/01/2016 12:20PM
Subject: Re: Clarified interview question (programming puzzle)

Craig said in his original post that the recruiter wanted to know why so
many people where failing but it has been brought up that this might not be
a programming exercise but a test to see how you responded to the request.
Did you ask for clarification? Did you just start programming without
thinking it through, etc.

In other words, it might be a programming test or it might be something
else. If it is a programming test, it is a very poorly stated one. Just
wondering if Craig knew what the answer was that they were expecting. If
people were failing, then clearly there was an answer they were expecting.

On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 9:01 AM, Mark Murphy/STAR BASE Consulting Inc. <
mmurphy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

The answer to what? This code does in fact satisfy the OP's question. I
did write it, and based on how long it took, I probably could have written
it during an interview. Testing simply worked out edge cases. Given a
terminal and login, I likely could have done the testing as well during the
interview. I still wouldn't ask anything like this in an interview, even if
the job would entail coming up with complex algorithms. I think it is hard
to determine how good someone is in an interview.

Mark Murphy
STAR BASE Consulting, Inc.
mmurphy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

-----Alan Campin <alan0307d@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: -----
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From: Alan Campin <alan0307d@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: 07/01/2016 11:48AM
Subject: Re: Clarified interview question (programming puzzle)

So what is the correct answer? Is it really a programming question? Can you
write this code or a test to determine if you ask questions or what. I
mean, clearly you are not going to write something this complex during an
interview.

On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 8:44 AM, Mark Murphy/STAR BASE Consulting Inc. <
mmurphy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Did you try it? I did, and all of the test cases in John's post pass. It
does have a bug for a string that goes all the way to the end of the

input

variable

Fix by putting this at the end of the loop:

if InWord;
if not added;
count += 1;
endif;
result += %char(count - 1) + lastchr;
endif;

instead of

if InWord;
result += %char(count-1) + lastchr;
endif;

As for procedures, this is a single procedure were the only duplicated
code is in the block mentioned above. I guess I could have broken that

out.

Otherwise I would be splitting things up for the sake of splitting them

up?

And here is the code that counts only distinct characters

elseif %check(content: chr) > 0;
count += 1;
content += chr;
added = *On;
endif;

Mark Murphy
STAR BASE Consulting, Inc.
mmurphy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

-----Charles Wilt <charles.wilt@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: -----
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From: Charles Wilt <charles.wilt@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: 07/01/2016 11:27AM
Subject: Re: Clarified interview question (programming puzzle)

Think you'd fail...

The OP mentioned counting "distinct" characters...
book -> b1k

Also, points off for not using procedures! ;p

Charles

On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Mark Murphy/STAR BASE Consulting Inc. <
mmurphy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

While RPG was never designed to be a heavy duty string handling

language,

it really wasn't too hard.

ctl-opt Option(*SrcStmt : *NoDebugIo: *NoUnref)
DftActGrp(*No) ActGrp(*New)
Main(challenge);

dcl-proc challenge;
dcl-pi *n ExtPgm('CHALLENGE');
string Char(25) const;
end-pi;

dcl-c alpha 'abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz+
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ';

dcl-s content Varchar(64) Inz('');
dcl-s result Varchar(44) Inz('');
dcl-s chr Char(1) Inz('');
dcl-s lastchr Char(1) Inz('');
dcl-s i Int(5) Inz(0);
dcl-s j Int(5) Inz(0);
dcl-s InWord Ind Inz(*Off);
dcl-s count Int(5);
dcl-s added Ind Inz(*Off);

for i=1 to %size(string);
chr = %subst(string: i: 1);
if %check(alpha: chr) > 0;
if InWord;
if not added;
count += 1;
endif;
result += %char(count - 1) + lastchr;
endif;
InWord = *Off;
result += chr;
else;
lastchr = chr;
added = *Off;
if not InWord;
result += chr;
count = 0;
content = '';
elseif %check(content: chr) > 0;
count += 1;
content += chr;
added = *On;
endif;
InWord = *On;
endif;
endfor;
if InWord;
result += %char(count-1) + lastchr;
endif;

dsply 'Result: ' '*EXT' result;
end-proc;

Mark Murphy
STAR BASE Consulting, Inc.
mmurphy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

-----John Yeung <gallium.arsenide@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: -----
To: "RPG programming on the IBM i / System i" <rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: John Yeung <gallium.arsenide@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: 06/30/2016 08:29PM
Cc: IBMi Open Source Roundtable <opensource@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Clarified interview question (programming puzzle)

In another thread, Craig Pelkie presented a contrived programming task
being used as an interview question. I think we all agreed that there
were a number of problems with it as an interview question for an
actual, real-world RPG programming job.

But a few of us found it at least somewhat intriguing just as a
puzzle, and I wound up coding it myself, just for fun. It took me
significantly longer than I expected. I wasn't timing myself
carefully, but I was purposely trying to do it fairly quickly, and it
still took me probably two hours, give or take.

Then I tried to solve the same puzzle in Python, and it was kind of
ridiculous how easy it was, just taking a few minutes.

Here is the puzzle, restated to try to correct some of the terminology
problems in the original:

Write some RPG code which takes a string and transforms it according
to the following rules:

1. An "alphabetic character" is defined as a case-sensitive letter in
the English alphabet, so there are 52 possible different alphabetic
characters: A-Z and a-z. Everything else is a nonalphabetic character.

2. A "word" is defined as a contiguous sequence of one or more
alphabetic characters. Words are separated by one or more
nonalphabetic characters. Any two adjacent alphabetic characters must
belong to the same word (no two words can just butt up against each
other; they must be separated by at least one nonalphabetic
character).

3. Each word in the input must be replaced by the following: The first
character in the word, followed by the count of different characters
between (not inclusive of) the first character and the last character
in the word, followed by the last character in the word. This is
probably best understood with a few examples.

foo -> f1o
bar -> b1r
blue -> b2e
book -> b1k
Automotive -> A6e
AutomOtive -> A7e
my -> m0y
a -> a0a
aa -> a0a

4. All nonalphabetic characters should "pass through" unchanged to the
output. Examples of complete input -> complete output, using
single-quotes to denote the beginning and end of strings, as you would
see in normal RPG:

'foo bar' -> 'f1o b1r'
'Hello, world!' -> 'H2o, w3d!'
'Go4it!' -> 'G0o4i0t!'

5. You can use whatever mechanism of input and output you like. You
could write a program which accepts a string as a parameter and uses
the same parameter as output; you could write a subprocedure; you
could output to a spooled file; whatever.

I think that should be enough to clearly define the task. If you are
interested in trying this and still need more clarification, just ask.

I believe that the spirit of the problem involves using only RPG,
without embedded SQL, but this is just for fun so if you want to use
it, go ahead. Here's the Python solution I came up with, taking one
command-line parameter as input and printing the output to the screen
(well, technically to stdout):

import sys
import re

def transform_match(m):
w = m.group()
return w[0] + str(len(set(w[1:-1]))) + w[-1]

def transform_string(s):
return re.sub(r'[A-Za-z]+', transform_match, s)

print(transform_string(sys.argv[1]))

The above should work for both Python 2 and 3.

John Y.
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