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I always thought there was a "dirty bit" set when a record isto the actual disk.
added/changed to avoid such an issue.
Am I recalling something about this incorrectly? (Obviously so, it
would
seem)
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Thanks much - this confirms what we are seeing.
Ah the pain of needing immediate visibility!!
Vern
On 1/24/2014 3:52 PM, Jon Paris wrote:
The difference between FEOD and FEOF(N) is that in the former caseprogram is suspended until the data makes it all the way onto the
your
physical disk (or at least the drive's cache I guess). When you use
the (N) extender you are telling the OS that you are happy to rely on
the content of its buffers and don't actually need the data to be forced
The speed differences are significant. You'll barely notice FEOD(N)--
but you will notice FEOD.
wrote:
On 2014-01-24, at 4:26 PM, Vernon Hamberg <vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
flushed to disk yet. You could try issuing a FEOD to the file before
hi Eric
That seems the likely suspect. If things are not out of the buffer,
then DB management knows nothing about them, and the logicals won't
be maintained, right?
Have you used the N extender on FEOD? Reference says that unwritten
from a block get writ to database, although not necessarily to disk.
So things should be available, I'd think.
Index maintenance is a part of this, maybe, although a request for
a record know to DB should just make the program wait until
maintenance is done, as I recall.
Thanks much!
Vern
On 1/24/2014 3:19 PM, DeLong, Eric wrote:
Vernon,
I'd suspect that you have data written to buffer that has not been
exiting.
written.
-Eric DeLong
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Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 3:17 PM
To: RPG programming on the IBM i / System i
Subject: Possible timing issue with IO
Y'all
I haven't had to deal with quirky IO issues in a long time, so
here goes with my problem - hope someone has seen this behavior.
I have a program that reads through a file (let's call it VHFILE)
from a certain position and is checking for duplicates of a type -
not important - I'm using a state machine to handle this.
When this program is called on its own, it finds the duplicates.
When it is called from a program that just wrote to the file in
question, it rarely finds anything - but it does sometimes catch 1
or 2 instances of the problem.
It seems that this new program doesn't see the data that was just
)
VHFILE has 3 logicals - and VHFILE is quite large - one of what we
call our big files.
VHFILE - arrival - 51million
VHFILEA - 51million entries - 1.5GB VHFILEB - 51million entries -
1.8GB VHFILEC - 10million entries (S/O) - 420MB
OK, here's more info on the call stack -
1. CLPGMA - OPM
calls
2. CLPGMB - OPM with simple OVRDBF on file in question
calls
3. RPGPGMA - ILE - *CALLER - uses VHFILEA as UF A
(update +
add) and has deletes and writes
calls (after all writes are done - the number
varies,
whatever.4. CLPGMC - ILE - *DFTACTGRP
calls
5. RPGPGMB - ILE - QILE - uses VHFILEC as UF
(update only) and has only deletes
There is no need of sharing ODPs.
I recognize the "flaky" activation group structure, but I don't
think it should matter - in fact, it might help, to isolate
opening VHFILEC from the open of VHFILEA.
No commitment control in place - there is iTera for replication or
Jon Paris--
So -
1. Is FEOD a way to overcome this?
2. And is the N extender useful? RPG Reference says it can perform
better - unwritten records in a block are written to the database,
although not necessarily to disk (non-volatile storage).
Or some other idea.
Thanks
Vern
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