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Well, that's okay too Stu, because as we have seen from comments in this discussion, there are way way too many of our colleagues who would vote AGAINST virtually EVERYTHING.

Alan


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From: rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stuart Rowe
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 2:04 PM
To: RPG programming on the IBM i (AS/400 and iSeries)
Subject: Re: Free format H, F, D and P specs

Vern

This enhancement was voted almost unanimously as the top priority
It appears that way because the RFE site does not allow you to vote AGAINST an RFE. You can only "not vote" for one and they don't count the people who don't vote...

Stu



On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Vernon Hamberg <vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

Blake

This isn't a dig at you - it's at the thread and this community!

Sheesh!

What's up? Everyone wants something, IBM delivers a solution, and all
(I know, not everybody) we get is carping at what it is.

Hey, you haven't even seen it in your editors yet - get it loaded, try
it out, so maybe it's not what WE or YOU or I would have done - still,
give it time!

This enhancement was voted almost unanimously as the top priority for
representatives from several cultures - ISVs, CAAC, LUG, CEAC, at least.

And IBM have come through with a solution.

OK, back to my burrow!

Vern

On 10/8/2013 9:53 AM, BButterworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Why not just go with Java at that point instead of reinvent the wheel?
For
better DB integration, IBM could develop a LINQ-like or ORM package
around
DB2 for i to the Java tool box.

Blake


date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 08:08:08 -0400
from: Steve Richter <stephenrichter@xxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: Free format H, F, D and P specs

On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 2:39 AM, <thomas.raddatz@xxxxxx> wrote:
For example from the day when IBM introduced procedures with V3, I
wonder why we have to use P specs to start/end a procedure and D
specs
for
the procedure interface. Using only P specs whould have been a lot
easier
and clearer (at least for me):
Braces and combining the P and D specs would be nice. But it is just
syntactical sugar ( a term Anders Hejlsberg uses ). Consider that a
code editor could easily put those elements in the language. Or a
pre
compiler.
I can argue that IBM should focus on improving the pre compiler,
making
it
easier to integrate with the debugger. Once that is done then anyone
could
produce their own version of RPG that had braces and a simpler
procedure declaration.

What is really needed in the language is references, reference
counting and garbage collection. Once you have that then you can
have the various
types
of collections that you see in .NET ( when variables are addressed
by reference they can be placed in collections without having to
copy their contents. ) Once you have full featured collections like
dynamic arrays, linked lists, etc you can move on to morphing a
collection into a
database
and vice versa. Where you order by a collection the same way you
order by a table, or join a table to a collection.

-Steve


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