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RE: SEU and V7R1.

You have to read the detail. There are floating user licenses that are
fixed term and licenses that are "renewable".


-----Original Message-----
From: rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Vernon Hamberg
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 4:59 PM
To: RPG programming on the IBM i (AS/400 and iSeries)
Subject: Re: SEU and V7R1.

The site lists a license at 400-something - do NOT get that one! That is
really a one-year thing.

Floating - I didn't now it was one year at a time. I don't know that I
understand these things.

The list for the regular "authorized use" license is 940 - it can be had for
a good discount if you are replacing an ADTS seat - when you upgrade to 7.1
the ADTS thing gets changed to seats - we showed 25. Each can be replaced
with RD?. I think somewhere down around 600 - we got 4 licenses with media
from the mid-2000 area through our BP.

This probably doesn't apply to individuals, unfortunately.

HTH
Vern

On 6/17/2013 6:28 PM, Roger Harman wrote:
Going from memory, $960 sounds about what I paid (maybe a bit less,
the BP discounted it slightly). Maintenance (after the first year)
was around $300 as I recall but don't quote me on that.

What you saw are two different licenses. One ($960) is authorized
user (you on your desktop, laptop, etc). It is (sort of) perpetual in
that you can pay ongoing maintenance and get support/upgrades. The
other was a floating license (check in/out) for $760. Problem with
the floating license is it is fixed term. You have to buy it again next
year.


-----Original Message-----
From: rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Alan Campin
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 4:13 PM
To: RPG programming on the IBM i (AS/400 and iSeries)
Subject: Re: SEU and V7R1.

The IBM site says $964.00 and $760 but no explanation of what the
difference are. Colleague says it is $1,660.00 so went off that number.


On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 5:06 PM, Roger Harman
<roger_harman@xxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

Well, it's not new news. It has been mentioned here many times.

Here is one example:
http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l/201006/msg00805.html

Depending on your circumstances, there are lower cost licenses.
Defined user, perhaps? That was the cheapest way I found.


-----Original Message-----
From: rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Alan Campin
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 3:49 PM
To: RPG programming on the IBM i / System i
Subject: SEU and V7R1.

I can't believe this has not come up before. Maybe I am blind.

Looking at the articles on the new V7R1 features that Kurt sent out I
see this gem!

Here's what's really interesting: SEU's syntax checking has been
frozen at the 6.1 level! That means that SEU will not recognize any
of the 7.1 enhancements and will detect these new features as errors.

This is a disaster!

Both my current company and the previous company have refused to buy
the RDI tools and at $1,660 bucks I am not too surprised! Unless you
work in a shop where they will spend the $1700 bucks per developer
plus maintenance you are effectively locked out of using V7R1
features unless we turn off syntax checking. A big reduction in
productivity.

Anybody know of any efforts to get checking turned back on in V7R1?
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