Re: iSeries educational plan with our local University -- RPG400-L

I'll keep y'all posted, am evaluating it in next week or so, demo/walkthru
today it looked pretty slick.....

I am dealing with:
Jim Cooper
Internet Application Developer Program
Lambton College, Sarnia, ON
Voice: (519) 542-1268 ext. 3219
E-mail: Jim.Cooper@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

On 4/12/07, Christen, Duane J. <dchristen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I've poked around the IceBreak web site but I can't find any info on how
it
works (10,000" view would be great).

Duane Christen

-----Original Message-----
From: rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jim Cooper
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 8:55 AM
To: RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries
Subject: RE: iSeries educational plan with our local University

Mark,

IceBreak Application Server is free as part of the IBM Academic Initiative
to all academic institutions who teach System i, especially RPG. Are you
referring to the administrative side of the institution? If so, there is a
special discount for that. Could you contact me off-line and I will
provide
details.

Jim
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Jim Cooper
Internet Application Developer Program
Lambton College, Sarnia, ON
Voice: (519) 542-1268 ext. 3219
E-mail: Jim.Cooper@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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From: rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Mark Allen
Sent: Wed 4/11/2007 9:25 AM
To: RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries
Subject: Re: iSeries educational plan with our local University

Jim, when you say the App Server is free to educational institutions, is
that for student use only or can it be used to develop internal apps?

On 4/10/07, Jim Cooper <jim.cooper@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Eduard,
>
> All of the examples on the www.IceBreak4RPG.com website are written in
RPG
> and running on the IceBreak Application Server. IceBreak downloads and
> installs in less than 30 minutes and does not require CGI, Java, Apache,
> WebSphere, or anything else. Educational institutions receive a free
copy
of
> IceBreak Application Server. Just go to the website and request
information.
> Also, I can provide you with training and instructional material.
>
>
> Jim
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Jim Cooper
> Internet Application Developer Program
> Lambton College, Sarnia, ON
> Voice: (519) 542-1268 ext. 3219
> E-mail: Jim.Cooper@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of
> eduard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Tue 4/10/2007 3:53 PM
> To: RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries
> Subject: Re: iSeries educational plan with our local University
>
>
>
> Thanks Jim,
>
> I have had a look at their website.
> Those examples are pretty cool...
> I also have visited the Lambton College website.
> Did you wrote that with IceBreak?
>
> I guess the 'Academic' option means that IceBreak can be used by
> educational institutions as a example tool in educational programs?
> That could be an interesting option.
> Does IceBreak also have easy to use/understand handson tranings
available?
> We are now busy with selecting the things to do and what to use to do
so.
> For sure Website programming with RPGLE is one of the things we want.
> We have different options though (free and commercial tools) and will
want
> to give the students the possibilitie for comparisson.
>
> Can you act as an first form of contact with them or can you provide us
> with a contact within IceBreak??
>
> Thanks Again,
> Eduard.
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Jim Cooper <jim.cooper@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries <rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 10:14:23 AM
> Subject: RE: iSeries educational plan with our local University
>
>
> Eduard,
>
> The best way to teach RPG Web programming on the System i is to use the
> IceBreak Application Server. IceBreak downloads and installs in less
than
30
> minutes. It does not use CGI, Java, Apache, WebSphere, HATS, or
WebSphere.
> Visit www.IceBreak4RPG.com and click on RPG Templates for some examples.
>
> Let me know if I can be of help.
>
> Jim
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Jim Cooper
> Internet Application Developer Program
> Lambton College, Sarnia, ON
> Voice: (519) 542-1268 ext. 3219
> E-mail: Jim.Cooper@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of
> eduard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Mon 3/12/2007 11:51 AM
> To: RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries
> Subject: Re: iSeries educational plan with our local University
>
>
>
> Jim,
>
> It is the UNA; 'University of the Netherlands Antilles' Located on
Curaçao
> (Island under the Caribbean Sun).
>
> Regards,
> Eduard.
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Jim Cooper <jim.cooper@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries <rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 5:26:30 PM
> Subject: RE: iSeries educational plan with our local University
>
>
> Eduard,
>
> Could you tell me where you are located and the name of the university.
>
> Jim
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Eduard Sluis
> Sent: Sat 3/10/2007 2:48 PM
> To: RPG400-L Midrange; Midrange Systems Technical iSeries Discussion;
> easy400 easy400
> Subject: iSeries educational plan with our local University
>
>
>
> Dear all,
>
> We have decided to start a iSeries education program with our local
> University.
> This also to suit our needs (and those from other iseries using
companies)
> for students that already have basic iSeries knowledge when they arrive
from
> University but more important to make them at least acquainted to the
> iSeries.
> There is already an 720 arranged for them from one of our local banks.
> Our local IBM will be asked to help with a license for it so they do not
> have to install the system every 70 day's.....
> This hardware will suffice for a couple of years (we would liked to have
> obtained it as development machine ourselves (would really speed things
> up)).
>
> So now the hard work begins, WHAT and HOW TO DO???....
> We will need to develop an curriculum.
>
> We want to have the thing practical so the students can experience the
> operating-system and the very many and different ways to do things with
it.
> We want them to experience the different forms iSeries applications can
> get (5250, Webfaced, Websites (CGIDEV2), Communication interfaces over
> HTTP/FTP and there uses (SOAP interfaces, Webservices, XML and so on),
> Modern EJB based applications, and so on).
> We want them to experience how easy and effective you can develop on the
> iSeries with RPGLE (so they can compare that with the far more elaborate
> ways of programming in C++, Java, .Net, etc).
> We want them to understand the concepts of application-servers compared
to
> other types of servers or computers (and why they need to have different
> capabilities).
> We want them to understand why and when you have to choose to automate
> solutions on these types of servers.
> We want to open up their minds and make them know that the iSeries
exists
> and that this type of automation is very viable and versatile and in the
> For-Front of automation development (besides it is fun to be in the
iSeries
> world).
>
> So.... we want a lot!
> But we will probably get 7 weeks of 4 hours time to do it.
> If we do it right, probably some more time the other year.
>
> To do this we need some help.
> All of us know so much more on how and where to get existing stuff that
> can be very util for our goals (just send me the links).
> All of us could think of small things you could contribute (you just
have)
> and adds on to the to be created idea that so much is possible on and
with
> the iSeries (would be nice if it works)(The 720 will have V5R2M0 or
V5R3M0
> (or better when IBM decides to help)).
>
> Where are we looking for?
> - Examples of Curricula that could be usefull.
> - Existing short (few hours) illustrative labs/tutorials aimed on
> different expects of the OS (Multi-tasking, security, spool-handling,
> different standard available interfaces, concepts of subsystems, concept
of
> logical partitioning,... ,???, !!!).
> - Example applications that show the divers way's of things to do and
the
> many possibilities that can be explored to achieve a goal (Sending mail,
> accessing an web-service or Soap-interface, XML handling, Creating Excel
> sheets based on iSeries data, websites with specific features, Combining
> functions available in native iSeries with Java and PASE to achieve
goals
> not that common on the iSeries, rock-solid iSeries DataBaseDriven
> applications (Ok, those we have ourselves), embedded SQL, and so much
more).
> - Existing hands on and illustrative labs/tutorials aimed on iSeries
> development aspects (Starting with WDSC, RPGLE basics, ILE environment
> (Procedures, Binding libraries, Modules, ServicePrograms (what they are
and
> how they interact.)and that results in working 'simple' applications.
> - Articles of use for the other aspects mentioned above.
> - All the things we might forget and should be included.
> -
> -
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Any help is appreciated.
>
> Eduard.
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