RE: Converting RPG to RPGLE

I prefer DBGVIEW(*LIST)...BTW if a contractor DOESN'T know about this
then perhaps they aren't worth bringing in for critical stuff....

Just my 2 coppers 


Thanks,
Tommy Holden


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Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 8:48 AM
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Subject: RE: Converting RPG to RPGLE

I have to agree with that. Is this well documented? What if someone (a
contractor) comes along and doesn't know about this, and isn't told, and
starts looking around for source that may match the actual object? You
could get into loads of problems just on that score. Doing it this way
will take very rigid control, and that too may lead to problems if it is
relaxed at any point, which in my experience is more probable than not. 

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[mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]Namens Shannon O'Donnell
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Onderwerp: RE: Converting RPG to RPGLE



This seems like a really bad idea to me (changing the source but not
recompiling it). What happens if you have to debug a program that you
have converted the source for but have not recompiled? The compiled
object, if you didn't compile it with the DBGVIEW(*SOURCE) will need to
be recompiled so you can run it under debug and now the new object no
longer matches the old object and you won't know if the errors you are
getting now match the old errors or if it's something new.  



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From: Bob P. Roche [mailto:BRoche@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 1:52 PM
To: RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries
Subject: RE: Converting RPG to RPGLE

The way we did it was to convert all the source. but not compile the 
programs. When the programs get any maintenance on them, they will get 
compiled then. Even if you don't change anything you still as Jon said, 
you still need to test all the recompiled programs. 
And remember Jon, don't cry for the RPGIII programs, if they still
perform 
properly most companies have other things for us to use our RPGIV skills

on. If it isn't broken, don't fix it, our program, until you catch up on

that programming backlog (like that will ever happen).



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Would there be any advantage for me to run the CVTRPGSRC on the

source
and recompile it again?

Deep in my heart there is a little "sob" each time I hear that there are
still RPG III programs in the world - hey ho!

Anyway to answer your question - the answer is "probably".  The vast
majority of programs run faster when compiled with the RPG IV compiler
but
whether the speed boost outweighs the testing you would need to do is a
question only you can answer. 

Before you begin, read the compatibility section of the manual.  There
are
very few significant differences, but you should be aware of them before

you
start.  Most people though can just convert with no problems.  I would 
also
suggest that you consider using the Linoma Toolbox 
(www.linomasoftware.com).
It is low cost (free to try) and does a _much_ better job than the 
primitive
IBM program.  Just the fact that it places your D specs in alpha order
can
save you hours of variable hunting time.  It can also go directly to
/Free
if you wish.

My approach would be to convert each program whenever you need to do
maintenance on it.  If you take the defaults it will work just like the 
old
program, but be easier to maintain in the future.

Jon Paris
Partner400

www.Partner400.com