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Is it possible to create subfile without using any indicators ...
Simple answer - not really. Slightly more complicated answer - if by this you mean "without using numbered indicators in the RPG" then by use of the F-spec keyword INDDS this is possible. Even more complicated answer. You can "build-your-own" subfiles by using the DSM APIs - that would eliminate indicators completely. It would really help us to formulate an appropriate answer if you told us _why_ the question is being asked. What are you trying to achieve? Jon Paris Partner400 www.Partner400.com
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