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yep, seems i used the open() api wrong. i have to call it with open(%trimr(path): flags: mode) thanks for pointing me in the right direction :) - Martin ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin not specifically - my only thought is that perhaps the initial creation of the file puts a non-displayable character (a blank or whatever - if thats possible ?) at the end of the name. Hence you can edit it, but when referring to it by name you cannot find it. Mike
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