Re: Triple-DES algorithm on AS/400

["Jim Franz" <jfranz@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

>Why do you suppose AS/400 passwords are stored encrypted, yet
> passed across the network (TN5250 w/o SSL) unencrypted?
It is a telnet standard to do that (not an AS400 spec), and TN5250 is
telnet. But if you set
OS400 system value qrmtsign to *verify, and Client Access to Bypass Signon
then telnet signon no longer appears (and pwd is not passed in the clear).
The CA communication signon is encrypted (but not 3des).
jim
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rooney, Michael P" <michael.p.rooney@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries" <rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 10:13 AM
Subject: RE: Triple-DES algorithm on AS/400


> Emilio,
>
> California law isn't the only reason.  What about any sensitive customer
data?
> As a financial instituion we also have to secure customer account PIN's
and addresses.
> As MikeW pointed out, securing the information over the network is one
thing. Securing
> it locally is another.  Why do you suppose AS/400 passwords are stored
encrypted, yet
> passed across the network (TN5250 w/o SSL) unencrypted?
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael Rooney
> Citigroup International
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Mike Wills
> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 7:20 PM
> To: RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries
> Subject: Re: Triple-DES algorithm on AS/400
>
>
> The problem with that is California's law... you have to encryt the
> data in the database. So the communication might be secure, but the
> data isn't if someone managed to hack into the 400.
>
> On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 09:29:21 -0600 , Emilio Padilla - Sistemática Intl.
> <epadilla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > IMHO, why would you want to load encryption/decryption to the as/400?
> > Wouldn't be easier to buy a cheap firewall (us$ 600) and connect one of
your
> > Ethernet card to it? Let the firewall do the encryption/decryption
that's
> > what the built for.
> >
> > EAPT
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Keith Carpenter [mailto:CarpCon@xxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 7:43 AM
> > To: RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries
> > Subject: Re: Triple-DES algorithm on AS/400
> >
> > Gene published a MI version of  Twofish some years ago.  Actually it was
a
> > REXX procedure that generated the MI source and then created the
program.
> >
> > One of the problems with MI's CIPHER is you need to check that the
specific
> > encryption/hash function you want has been installed on your system.
> >
> > I haven't had any experience with this, but it's multi-platform
(including
> > OS/400).
> > http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/cryptlib/
> >
> > Keith
> >
> > Don (in DC) wrote
> >
> > > Now, we DO have this stuff in MI if this guy wants to play in MI (DES,
but
> > > I don't think 2-fish)...and I'm sure that Bob will want them to call
the
> > > MI intrinsics from RPG as he usually does...:)
> >
> > --
> > This is the RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries (RPG400-L) mailing
list
> > To post a message email: RPG400-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options,
> > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/rpg400-l
> > or email: RPG400-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives
> > at http://archive.midrange.com/rpg400-l.
> > --
> > This is the RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries (RPG400-L) mailing
list
> > To post a message email: RPG400-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options,
> > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/rpg400-l
> > or email: RPG400-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives
> > at http://archive.midrange.com/rpg400-l.
> >
> >
>
>
> -- 
> Mike Wills
> iSeries Programmer/Lawson Administrator
> koldark@xxxxxxxxx
> http://www.koldark.net
> Want Gmail? Email koldark+gmail@xxxxxxxxx to get on my waiting list.
>
> --
> This is the RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries (RPG400-L) mailing list
> To post a message email: RPG400-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options,
> visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/rpg400-l
> or email: RPG400-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives
> at http://archive.midrange.com/rpg400-l.
>
>
> --
> This is the RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries (RPG400-L) mailing list
> To post a message email: RPG400-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options,
> visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/rpg400-l
> or email: RPG400-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives
> at http://archive.midrange.com/rpg400-l.
>
>