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Die hard fixed formatters will never find a business benefit to convert to free format. You could show them a million ways that things are just not capable, or can't be done without a lot of effort in fixed format and they would redefine the problem to fit their answer. Or, instead of getting a decent set of tools, they want to stick with this homegrown tool that they wrote in RPGII that insists on a columnar format to document variable usage. Or they take pride that they've used no new function in RPG since V2R1 that way they can market to customers still running that release. The fact that they've received no new customers running something that old in the last 6 years is meaningless to them. Rob Berendt -- Group Dekko Services, LLC Dept 01.073 PO Box 2000 Dock 108 6928N 400E Kendallville, IN 46755 http://www.dekko.com
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