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>From: Joe Pluta [mailto:joepluta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] >Most non-trivial solutions require a non-trivial >approach, such as a message-based client/server system. So your non-trivial green-screen application from 1992 was a message-based client/server system? >For example, how do you create an order entry system using only stored >procedures as entry points? ... Are we discussing architecture or technology? But... Allocate Connection Begin Transaction Create Order Header Add Ship To Add Ship To Add Order Line Add Order Line Ship To Add Order Line Ship To Add OrderLine Add Order Line Ship To Add OrderLine Add Order Line Ship To ... Commit Transaction Deallocate Connection Simple No? Or, you could simple bundle the entire order into an XML document and call a stored proc passing the XML doc and let the stored proc do it all. Oh, and don't ask me where I'm allocating the inventory, that happens in a trigger based on the order line table. <G> >If you don't know what server your back end systems will be running on three >years from now, you have a huge problem. On the opposite side, chances >are you have no idea what UI devices you'll need to support three years >from now. No argument. So if I know I'll be running Windows servers on the back end in 3 years I don't have a problem, right? Of course I have no idea what UI I'll need, no problem, I'll change the HTML or whatever the UI output is. >And in the problem set of UI, ASP is far less standard and far more >restrictive than JSP. Huh? Currently they both feed HTML devices, no? Aren't we restricted to the same UI in HTML? Also, if you refer to the fact that you could create XML or some other ?ML, great, so can ASP. >Personally, I couldn't care less about standards committees... Fine by me. I was simply answering your statement that you couldn't justify spending $1000 on a "non-standard web development platform." You must have a standard to be non-standard, no? >Thanks for pointing that out the competitive upgrade, Walden! No problem. However, I'd argue that even at $1000, if you can't justify spending $1000 on your $60K developer to write your web app for your $100M company then you have a problem. (Editorial use of "you", not you personally Joe) >So, in your opinion, is VS.NET Professional equivalent and/or better than WDSC? Better for what? I wouldn't choose a technology based on the IDE. If you're going with JSP then VS.NET will suck, and if you're going with ASP.NET WSDC will suck. My point was simply that MS has a _very_ good IDE should you go that way. -Walden ------------ Walden H Leverich III President Tech Software (516) 627-3800 x11 (208) 692-3308 eFax WaldenL@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.TechSoftInc.com Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur. (Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.)
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