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X is on iSeries, except Rochester has a "not-invented here" attitude about it. Check out www.export-ventures.com They ported it to the 400 and even have a specialized library for the RPG interface. Works great, looks good, but as usually, everybody wants IBM to bundle it for "free" with OS/400. Bob Cozzi Cozzi Consulting www.rpgiv.com -----Original Message----- From: rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of DeLong, Eric Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 4:18 PM To: 'RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries' Subject: RE: SEU vs. ? Scott, You saw the thread a while back about VNC on iSeries PASE? I'm not sure how "native" this would be, but my understanding is that PASE environment is managed by OS400. Still, working in a Unix context within OS400 seems a little kludgy, and might not be as useful as it first seems. Anyway, VNC has clients for almost everybody..... The consensus was that unless IBM makes X11 or VNC a standard interface on iSeries, that nobody would use it. Eric DeLong Sally Beauty Company MIS-Project Manager (BSG) 940-898-7863 or ext. 1863 -----Original Message----- From: Scott Klement [mailto:klemscot@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 3:54 PM To: RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries Subject: RE: SEU vs. ? > > But, even your FreeBSD uses a strap-on third party piece of software to > provide a GUI. As stated in their handbook: "FreeBSD uses XFree86 to > provide users with a powerful graphical user interface." > That's true, but I don't see what it has to do with this thread? My objection isn't because Windows was written by someone other than IBM. My objection is that I can't really use WDSC or CODE because I have to reboot my computer into Windows every time I want to edit a source member. Believe it or not, I use my PC for other things besides purely being a front-end to OS/400. I can't discard FreeBSD in favor of Windows, because I need FreeBSD to do my job. I could, by doing a lot of work, conversion, migration, etc, convert everything to be Windows-based instead of FreeBSD-based... but since I don't like Windows, that's not likely to happen. > > If I remember correctly most (if not all) flavors of Unix and Linux use > separate 'software' to provide the GUI. OS/400 is really no different. > Maybe you can convince the developers to port XFree86 to run on OS/400. ;-) > I like the idea of using XFree86 or some other brand of X11 on the iSeries... I always have. The only problem is that, this way, it's the Windows users who get left out. My point is that OS/400 shouldn't require another computer with another (specific) operating system. If they wrote the thing in C using GTK as a front-end (for example) they'd be able to compile and run it on Windows, Linux, FreeBSD, MacOS X, and any major flavor of Unix. If they wrote it in pure Java, as another example, they'd be able to run it everywhere that there's a JVM. Of course, they'd have to deal with the horrible performance penalty that Java gives you, but I could probably live with that. If they wrote it to run natively on the iSeries, and used an X11 scenario to connect & run the GUI, then I'd also be happy. With an X11 server on the iSeries, Linux users and Unix users would natively be able to work with the applications. Windows users would have to get 3rd-party software called an "Xserver", but there are many of them already available, including open source alternatives. This would also give you the added benefits of being able to write GUI programs that ran natively on your iSeries instead of the client/server hacks that people are doing today. At least Windows users wouldn't be completely out of luck, like I am today. You see, IBM did it in the WORST POSSIBLE WAY. They used Java in a way that makes it _only_ run in Windows. So, you get the worst of all worlds. Java's performance penalty. No alternatives for operating system / connection methods. _______________________________________________ This is the RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries (RPG400-L) mailing list To post a message email: RPG400-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/rpg400-l or email: RPG400-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/rpg400-l. _______________________________________________ This is the RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries (RPG400-L) mailing list To post a message email: RPG400-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/rpg400-l or email: RPG400-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/rpg400-l.
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