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>> Here is a typical OS/400 data base data type not supported by RPG as a standard. _If_ RPG was a new language and had no legacy to deal with I would agree with you. But this is not the case. RPG for eons had only the type B binary type (which was implemented with the same rules as COBOL) - when binary data is encountered on the database that is what it is translated to by default. Pure Ints (I and U) were introduced (relatively) recently - had the compiler suddenly changed its default behavior there would have been screams of agony from RPGers around the world at this unexpected behavior change. One of the most frustrating things about compiler writing is that you often don't get to _fix_ things because it would screw people up - you just get to provide alternatives. That is what happened in this case. They gave you an alternative. >> This really hurts RPG, just like being required to know the maximum digit length of integers. I don't think it "hurts". How big is an Int in C ? You don't know the answer unless you know the platform. What does COMP mean in COBOL? Same answer. Having the spec be in digits is a pain but doesn't exactly take a lot of memory space - again it was a compatibility thing. Type B was defined this way - how many people would have complained if type I used bytes instead of digits? You can argue that the decision for type B was wrong and that the original design was flawed - I probably wouldn't argue with that - but once that decision was made - well we're back to the compiler writers dilemma again. You can't "fix" it - you can only provide alternatives. Jon Paris Partner400
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