RE: Many RPG programmers would like to be able to port their apps to other

Sorry if I was too quick to respond, it happens to all of us from time to
time.  It's just hard enough to imagine that I need to move (at least
partially) off the 400 and almost intolerable to think that I would be
thought unloyal for doing so.  If I was unloyal I would have been out of
here 5 years ago...

> Short side is,  I know what you are going thru.  Unix is the
> future, so get
> used to using such self evident code as
>
> $ ls -l \**  -rw-r--r--  1 scotty  wheel  0 Dec 19 16:26 *.jsp

"Clouded this boy's future is."
-- Yoda

:-)

Joel R. Cochran
Director of Internet Services
VamaNet.com
(800)480-8810
mailto:custservice@vamanet.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: jpcarr@tredegar.com [mailto:jpcarr@tredegar.com]
> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 11:11 AM
> To: rpg400-l@midrange.com
> Subject: RE: Many RPG programmers would like to be able to port their
> apps to other
>
>
>
> Joel
>
> I think you misunderstood what I meant.
>
> Most Unix shops are Unix shops.  They don't care that much what the
> hardware is.
> Nearly all experiences I have had with the WinTel platform
> tell me that the
> departments purchase which ever hardware they can get with best
> Price/support ratio.
>
> If the ratio changes,  That vendor is out tomorrow. That's
> all I meant.
>
> I also understand your business position painfully well.
>
> I live in the same world you do.   My brother in-law has ran
> a hospital on
> an AS/400 for 10 years.  Smooth running, backups,
> avaiability, and every
> thing.  He gets a new 30 year old boss who has the bright
> idea that "It's
> gotta be Unix"  Cause that's what he knows and he doesn't know what an
> iSeries is. Even though it has been running smoothly with no
> down time.....
>
> We looked at a data warehouse app solution from Essbase.  We
> already have
> Showcase that uses/licences the Essbase engine but doesn't
> support this
> app.   The Essbase rep rather smugly said that they "Didn't
> do iSeries"
> they develop on XP and port to Unix. Even though IBM is their largest
> customer (who arm wrestled them in to supporting Websphere but didn't
> wrestle them into supporting iSeries)
>
> Short side is,  I know what you are going thru.  Unix is the
> future, so get
> used to using such self evident code as
>
> $ ls -l \**  -rw-r--r--  1 scotty  wheel  0 Dec 19 16:26 *.jsp
>
> John Carr
>
> <so if you don't mind please keep the gross generalizations
> to yourself.>
>
> I NEVER make generalizations, or is that, I ALWAYS make
> generalizations?
> What good are Gross generalizations if you keep them to your self?
>
> ------------------------
>
>
>
>
> You're kidding, right?  I care.  I care a lot!  Unfortunately
> most of our
> potential business doesn't.  As a little ISV I MUST provide
> what potential
> users demand which is increasingly the ability to run in an
> NT environment
> that has no iSeries.  I can talk until I'm blue in the face
> (and have on
> many occassions) trying to convince them to go with the 400
> but ultimately
> I
> can't compete on just the 400 alone.
>
> We have lost a dozen contracts in the last couple of years
> because we are
> 400-centric which I  think represents loyalty to the point of becoming
> painful, especially when you consider that we only have 30 clients.  I
> don't
> WANT to go cross-platform, I NEED to go cross-platform and I
> will ALWAYS
> run
> 400s and RPG in-house, so if you don't mind please keep the gross
> generalizations to yourself.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Joel R. Cochran
>
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