Re: DIM question (Was MOVE/MOVEL and %Scan)

So? Prove it is a viable and cost effective way to do things.
I *love* AS/400's, and I even have an 286 sitting here next to my desk I still 
maintain
an application on.

But you CANNOT make money on System/36 applications today.
You probably will NOT make money on AS/400 green screen apps tomorrow.
Certainly most people WILL NOT make money on AS/400 green screen apps tomorrow.

So find a solution. I sure as hell have not been able to.

-Paul;


----- Original Message -----
From: <jpcarr@tredegar.com>
To: <rpg400-l@midrange.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2002 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: DIM question (Was MOVE/MOVEL and %Scan)


>
> Hans
>
> As crazy as the below(Joes and Jeff's posts) sounds,  it really is a very
> valid viewpoint of many of us Sys/38/AS/400/iSeries Application
> Programmers. My 8 hour days for the last 15 to 20 years has been spent
> writing G/L ,  A/P, A/R, OE/I , ShopFloor Data collections, Inventory,
> Budget Programs and yes MRP gens.    My world is a Fixed Decimal,  Fixed
> Length RDB world.  Every company I have worked for has viewed the computer
> as a means to an end.
>
> My last and I truly mean LAST desire is to port my applications and day to
> day world to an other OS/hardware.
> DO YOU READ THAT IBM ?
>
> Java SW (for an example)  that can run on any OS is IBM's dream come true,
> It's NOT My Dream come true.
> Linux that runs on every hardware is IBM's dream come true,  it's NOT my
> dream come true.
>
> I will let you in on one more secret before I close this rant.
>
> The customers that ARE concerned about porting their apps to another OS or
> hardware platform
> will become just like the other typical Intel or Linux/Unix customers.
>
> Which is:
>
> They don't give a flying F@#$ what the hardware it is. Compaq, Dell,
> xSeries...
> "Are you the cheapest?, No? then you are outta here"
>
> Unix, Linux, Python, VB.... They will say "I have NO allegiance to you,
> Next week You are Outta here"
> IBM, SUN, MS..... I have NO allegiance to you. I will change from you like
> I change socks.
>
> The iSeries customer (ME) are about the last customers that would say.....
> " My last and I truly mean LAST desire is to port my applications and day
> to day world to an other OS/hardware.  "
>
> And if it does come about that the iSeries disappears,  You (hans) might as
> well follow Jennifer and go to work for  M$ cause they don't give a rip
> what their customers want either.
>
> Sorry for the rant but you hit an emotional nerve with this thread.
>
> Respectfully
> John Carr
>
>
> > > Many RPG programmers would like to be able to port their apps to
> > > other operating systems.  But matching the semantics of RPG's
> > > database operations to databases on other systems is not easy.
> > > The inability to easily port business applications written in
> > > RPG is a major impediment to more widespread adoption of the
> > > language.
> > > IBM Compiler Writer.
>
>
> > Your client base doesn't care about porting their applications, Hans.
> This
> > is the red herring mantra I hear over and over.  "It doesn't port well."
> > Most people don't want to port thweir applications, Hans.  If your goal
> is
> > to turn RPG into some hybrid changeling that can run on a Windows box,
> then
> > I truly fear for the future of the language, and the future of the
> platform.
> > Joe Pluta:
>
>
> Bingo.  Neither me nor my company has any interest in any hardware to
> run our business than an AS/400 (I mean iSeries).  IBM just doesn't get
> it.  What I fear most is IBM being so focused on this stuff ("porting"
> "open") that IBM itself will kill the iSeries.  And when it happens, IBM
> will say "See, we told you so" completely oblivious to that fact they
> did it themselves.
>
> My business is not running computers, it's running my business.  When
> the iSeries disappears, I will find another line of work.  Why?  Because
> I haven't heard of any other computer system besides the iSeries that
> let's me focus on my business instead of running computers.
>
> Jeff Crosby
>
>
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