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John, Okay so we're MOSTLY on the same page. :) Regarding your following comment, I would strongly argue that you don't have a customer NUMBER. You have a customer ID! IMO, this is the same sort of long-standing industry "mistake" that helped lead to the Y2K (thought I'd NEVER type that letter combination again!) debacle. With respect to Y2K, insisting on YYMMDD type formats for dates was one of those habits the industry fell into and stayed in. We all know the resulting costs. With respect to "Customer Numbers", I submit that it is much better to move away from that nomenclature and begin referring to the entities in the fashion of "Customer IDs". Then perhaps we can get away from defining these entities in the database in a numeric format. You never know when you're going to need a value that contains something other than numeric-only data. Now that I've introduced the topic, let me use a more demonstrative example - Zip Codes. Limiting the conversation momentarily to the USA, Zip Codes often are defined as numeric. In fact, in the not so distant past, they were defined as 5 digits in length. Of course, 9 is a more appropriate length now. But, all of a sudden your company decides to do business outside of the USA -- hmm, now we need alpha characters, too! And, there's nothing that prevents USA standards to change to allow alpha characters. This having been said, I submit that it's best to leave numeric definitions to those entities that indicate quantitative data and avoid the type of problems mentioned. Thoughts? Gary Guthrie REAL Solutions Technical Support NEWS/400 Technical Editor > To me the bigger sin(being a data base bigot) is > using a 15,5 parameter variable for (say) a customer number or invoice > number when my data dictionary defines it as 7,0. I want that attribute > of the DB customer entity to cascade everywhere I used customer number. +--- | This is the RPG/400 Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to RPG400-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to RPG400-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to RPG400-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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