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Why didn't they just buy it from Bugbusters in the first place and put it
out with the toolset? Bugbusters would have gotten rich, and everyone would
have a common tool that worked just like SDA. That would have been a
win-win situation for everyone.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Simon Coulter" <shc@flybynight.com.au>
To: <RPG400-L@midrange.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: RLU
>
> The story of why it has such an appalling interface (I think it's
schizoid -- doesn't know
> whether it's SEU or SDA) has to to with a 3rd-party product already
mentioned here. The
> RLU designers feeling was that IBM might get sued for look-and-feel
infringments if they
> made their version work like SDA. No-one seemed to realise that SDA is an
IBM design and
> if anyone were guilty of such an infringement it would be the 3rd-party.
Also the
> possible consequences of killing the competition by providing a free
alternative to a
> 3rd-party product ("free" in the sense that it would come with ADTS which
people buy to
> get PDM, SEU, and SDA).
>
> Regards,
> Simon Coulter.
>
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> > Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 11:49:49 -0500
> > From: "Rob Berendt" <rob@dekko.com>
> > To: RPG400-L@midrange.com
> > Reply-To: RPG400-L@midrange.com
> > Subject: RLU
>
> >
> > Of all of those who think/thought that RLU stands for Really Lousy
Utility, (like me),
> has anyone changed their mind after having used it
> > ***recently***
> > ***recently***
> > ***recently***? I haven't used it recently and was so disgusted earlier
I wanted to see
> if it's winning converts before I tried it again.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > dbryant@banpharm.com on 04/12/2000 11:29:14 AM
> > Please respond to RPG400-L@midrange.com@Internet
> > To: RPG400-L@midrange.com@Internet
> > cc:
> > Fax to:
> > Subject: Re: external *PRTF (was: RE: 'ILE RPG' or 'RPG IV' . What's the
diffe
> rence!!!)
> >
> >
> >
> > Have you used RLU lately? It is absolutely GREAT!! O specs (ugly),
might as
> > well be an RPG-II program.
> > With RLU, no worries about end positions, page overflow, line spacing or
even
> > knowing the field lengths. With RLU, you can quickly center a field. You
can use
> > the REFER option for RLU to get the field attributes for you. You can
copy, move
> > and delete fields with a quick function key sequence. Even highlight
fields and
> > underline (you can even use indicators to control the different
functions
> > available). But most of all I love the fact that RLU will output your
TODAYS
> > date and time, and the page number with NO RPG coding at all. Also you
can
> > print a "Sample" prototype report to see how your report looks on paper.
> > RLU is cool!!!
> >
> > IMHO.....
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > |--------+----------------------->
> > | | "Jim" |
> > | | <jcannon@anti|
> > | | gua.com> |
> > | | |
> > | | 04/10/2000 |
> > | | 01:36 PM |
> O | | Please |
> > | | respond to |
> > | | RPG400-L |
> > | | |
> > |--------+----------------------->
> > >--------------------------------------------------------|
> > | |
> > | To: RPG400-L@midrange.com |
> > | cc: (bcc: Darlene H Bryant/Banpharm) |
> > | Subject: Re: external *PRTF (was: RE: 'ILE |
> > | RPG' or 'RPG IV' . What's the diffe rence!!!) |
> > >--------------------------------------------------------|
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > very well said! I agree!
> >
> > From: "Bale, Dan" <DBale@lear.com>
> > To: "'RPG400-L@midrange.com'" <RPG400-L@midrange.com>
> > Subject: external *PRTF (was: RE: 'ILE RPG' or 'RPG IV' .
What's the
> > diffe
> > rence!!!)
> > Date sent: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 10:35:02 -0400
> > Send reply to: RPG400-L@midrange.com
> >
> > Really don't mean to start a holy war here <g>, but... IMNSHO:
> >
> > External printer files - BLEAAHHH! If it's used in only one program,
which
> > is the case for 99.95% of all printer files I've ever come across, then
keep
> > it in the RPG source!
> >
> > Granted, had IBM's braindead RLU been something closer to what RDA (by
> > BugBusters???) is, then I might have formed a different opinion ten
years
> > ago. Then again, since RDA allows you to choose between creating
printer
> > DDS specs or RPG O-specs, who knows? There's really not a whole lot you
can
> > do in DDS that can't be done in RPG O-specs for _most_ printer output.
> >
> > Honestly, though, it really isn't an "ease of design / development"
issue
> > with me. For me, it's an "ease of maintenance" issue, since I do much
more
> > maintenance than new development.
> > Internal: One source member. External: Two source members.
> > Internal: No confusing where the printer file source is; it's right
there.
> > External: Ever been in a JBA shop? 'nuf said.
> > Internal: One edit session, one compile. External: Two edit sessions,
two
> > compiles.
> > Internal: When RPG compile error occurs, you just need to look for
errors in
> > the RPG source. External: When RPG compile error occurs, you need to
check
> > the RPG compile listing, oops - not there, now go check the printer file
> > DDS, make corrections, recompile DDS, recompile RPG.
> >
> > All that said, I always follow the shop standards. I can do printer
specs
> > either way.
> >
> > Jon, please indicate why you think "it is just better and safer to
describe
> > these things externally."
> >
> > - Dan Bale
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jon.Paris@halinfo.it [SMTP:Jon.Paris@halinfo.it]
> > > Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2000 9:08 AM
> > > To: RPG400-L@midrange.com
> > > Subject: Re: 'ILE RPG' or 'RPG IV' . What's the difference!!!
> > >
> > > PS. I don't think printer files have _anything_ to do with using them
in
> > > multiple places any more that display files do - it is just better and
> > > safer to
> > > describe these things externally.
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