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I don't think RLU is all that unfriendly, it's not just the same as SDA. It would have been nice if SDA and RLU used some if not most of the same conventions. -----Original Message----- From: Rob Berendt [SMTP:rob@dekko.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 9:47 AM To: RPG400-L@midrange.com Subject: Re: external *PRTF (was: RE: 'ILE RPG' or 'RPG IV' . What's the diffe rence!!!) I've heard that they've redone that. I haven't tried the redone. In the past it earned the name Really Lousy Utility. dbryant@banpharm.com on 04/11/2000 08:33:55 AM Please respond to RPG400-L@midrange.com@Internet To: RPG400-L@midrange.com@Internet cc: Fax to: Subject: Re: external *PRTF (was: RE: 'ILE RPG' or 'RPG IV' . What's the diffe rence!!!) Have you used RLU lately? It is absolutely GREAT!! O specs (ugly), might as well be an RPG-II program. With RLU, no worries about end positions, page overflow, line spacing or even knowing the field lengths. With RLU, you can quickly center a field. You can use the REFER option for RLU to get the field attributes for you. You can copy, move and delete fields with a quick function key sequence. Even highlight fields and underline (you can even use indicators to control the different functions available). But most of all I love the fact that RLU will output your TODAYS date and time, and the page number with NO RPG coding at all. Also you can print a "Sample" prototype report to see how your report looks on paper. RLU is cool!!! IMHO..... |--------+-----------------------> | | "Jim" | | | <jcannon@anti| | | gua.com> | | | | | | 04/10/2000 | | | 01:36 PM | | | Please | | | respond to | | | RPG400-L | | | | |--------+-----------------------> >--------------------------------------------------------| | | | To: RPG400-L@midrange.com | | cc: (bcc: Darlene H Bryant/Banpharm) | | Subject: Re: external *PRTF (was: RE: 'ILE | | RPG' or 'RPG IV' . What's the diffe rence!!!) | >--------------------------------------------------------| very well said! I agree! From: "Bale, Dan" <DBale@lear.com> To: "'RPG400-L@midrange.com'" <RPG400-L@midrange.com> Subject: external *PRTF (was: RE: 'ILE RPG' or 'RPG IV' . What's the diffe rence!!!) Date sent: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 10:35:02 -0400 Send reply to: RPG400-L@midrange.com Really don't mean to start a holy war here <g>, but... IMNSHO: External printer files - BLEAAHHH! If it's used in only one program, which is the case for 99.95% of all printer files I've ever come across, then keep it in the RPG source! Granted, had IBM's braindead RLU been something closer to what RDA (by BugBusters???) is, then I might have formed a different opinion ten years ago. Then again, since RDA allows you to choose between creating printer DDS specs or RPG O-specs, who knows? There's really not a whole lot you can do in DDS that can't be done in RPG O-specs for _most_ printer output. Honestly, though, it really isn't an "ease of design / development" issue with me. For me, it's an "ease of maintenance" issue, since I do much more maintenance than new development. Internal: One source member. External: Two source members. Internal: No confusing where the printer file source is; it's right there. External: Ever been in a JBA shop? 'nuf said. Internal: One edit session, one compile. External: Two edit sessions, two compiles. Internal: When RPG compile error occurs, you just need to look for errors in the RPG source. External: When RPG compile error occurs, you need to check the RPG compile listing, oops - not there, now go check the printer file DDS, make corrections, recompile DDS, recompile RPG. All that said, I always follow the shop standards. I can do printer specs either way. Jon, please indicate why you think "it is just better and safer to describe these things externally." - Dan Bale > -----Original Message----- > From: Jon.Paris@halinfo.it [SMTP:Jon.Paris@halinfo.it] > Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2000 9:08 AM > To: RPG400-L@midrange.com > Subject: Re: 'ILE RPG' or 'RPG IV' . What's the difference!!! > > PS. I don't think printer files have _anything_ to do with using them in > multiple places any more that display files do - it is just better and > safer to > describe these things externally. +--- | This is the RPG/400 Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to RPG400-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to RPG400-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to RPG400-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +--- +--- | This is the RPG/400 Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to RPG400-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to RPG400-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to RPG400-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +--- +--- | This is the RPG/400 Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to RPG400-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to RPG400-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to RPG400-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +--- +--- | This is the RPG/400 Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to RPG400-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to RPG400-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to RPG400-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +--- +--- | This is the RPG/400 Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to RPG400-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to RPG400-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to RPG400-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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