RE: external *PRTF (was: RE: 'ILE RPG' or 'RPG IV' . What's the diffe rence!!!)

[Colin Williams <colin.williams@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

You dont need clunky RLU you to print current date and time, or page
number! Any externally defined printer file can do that.

-----Original Message-----
From: dbryant@banpharm.com [mailto:dbryant@banpharm.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 1:47 PM
To: RPG400-L@midrange.com
Subject: Re: external *PRTF (was: RE: 'ILE RPG' or 'RPG IV' . What's the
diffe rence!!!)




Have you used RLU lately?  It is absolutely GREAT!!  O specs 
(ugly), might as
well be an RPG-II program.
With RLU, no worries about end positions, page overflow, line 
spacing or even
knowing the field lengths. With RLU, you can quickly center a 
field. You can use
the REFER option for RLU to get the field attributes for you. 
You can copy, move
and delete fields with a quick function key sequence. Even 
highlight fields and
underline (you can even use indicators to control the different 
functions
available). But most of all I love the fact that RLU will 
output your TODAYS
date and time, and the page number with NO RPG coding at all.   
Also you can
print a "Sample" prototype report to see how your report looks on paper.
RLU is cool!!!

IMHO.....




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very well said! I agree!

From:               "Bale, Dan" <DBale@lear.com>
To:                 "'RPG400-L@midrange.com'" <RPG400-L@midrange.com>
Subject:            external *PRTF (was: RE: 'ILE RPG' or 'RPG 
IV' . What's the
diffe
     rence!!!)
Date sent:          Mon, 10 Apr 2000 10:35:02 -0400
Send reply to:      RPG400-L@midrange.com

Really don't mean to start a holy war here <g>, but...  IMNSHO:

External printer files - BLEAAHHH!  If it's used in only one 
program, which
is the case for 99.95% of all printer files I've ever come 
across, then keep
it in the RPG source!

Granted, had IBM's braindead RLU been something closer to what RDA (by
BugBusters???) is, then I might have formed a different opinion 
ten years
ago.  Then again, since RDA allows you to choose between 
creating printer
DDS specs or RPG O-specs, who knows?  There's really not a 
whole lot you can
do in DDS that can't be done in RPG O-specs for _most_ printer output.

Honestly, though, it really isn't an "ease of design / 
development" issue
with me.  For me, it's an "ease of maintenance" issue, since I 
do much more
maintenance than new development.
Internal: One source member. External: Two source members.
Internal: No confusing where the printer file source is; it's 
right there.
External: Ever been in a JBA shop? 'nuf said.
Internal: One edit session, one compile.  External: Two edit 
sessions, two
compiles.
Internal: When RPG compile error occurs, you just need to look 
for errors in
the RPG source.  External:  When RPG compile error occurs, you 
need to check
the RPG compile listing, oops - not there, now go check the printer file
DDS, make corrections, recompile DDS, recompile RPG.

All that said, I always follow the shop standards.  I can do 
printer specs
either way.

Jon, please indicate why you think "it is just better and safer 
to describe
these things externally."

- Dan Bale

> -----Original Message-----
> From:   Jon.Paris@halinfo.it [SMTP:Jon.Paris@halinfo.it]
> Sent:   Saturday, April 08, 2000 9:08 AM
> To:     RPG400-L@midrange.com
> Subject:     Re: 'ILE RPG' or 'RPG IV' . What's the difference!!!
>
> PS. I don't think printer files have _anything_ to do with 
using them in
> multiple places any more that display files do - it is just better and
> safer to
> describe these things externally.
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