RE: Using % type functions/using RPG IV

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Ah!! OK, then Your company has installed a new ERP.  How smoothly did it 
go?  Were they in and out in a few weeks or did it drag on for several 
months?  Have the users liked the new system?  Are the savings mounting up 
even as we speak?  What was the new platform-independent system?  Does it 
run on win-tel and Unix and apple at the workstations?  Is it all browser 
interface?  Are the reports useful and is there a full suite of reports 
that fill user and management needs?  Is there an appropriate user query 
tool or does it require SQL training for the user base?  How is 
performance? Security? Is there a wide pool of potential workers already 
versed in the package and the language for modifications?  Have your help 
desk costs dropped appreciably? What does it use for networking terminals, 
PCs, Macs, and various printers?

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"Stone, Joel" <StoneJ@GourmetAward.com>
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02/07/2000 03:40 PM
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Jon - Do you really think JDE is the "exception" who has switched to a 
"different paradigm"?  In my opinion, the only vendors still strong and 
enhancing their products are the ones who switched away from RPG and moved 
(years ago) to a multi-platform computing environment.
JDE switch to non-RPG development I think in the early 90's.  Lawson did 
it before that.  They both have case tools which output non-RPG code to 
run the same apps on the customer's choice of AS/400, NT, Unix, etc.
I know that our company didn't even consider an AS/400-only solution when 
they chose an ERP last year, and I doubt that any prospect would buy into 
an RPG app in this millenium, whehter it is RPG2, 3, 4, or 10!   It is 
just too limiting.   Businesses want the flexibility to move to another 
platform if they need to in the future.
Quote from Jon: "The exceptions are those like JDE who have switched to a 
different paradigm 
(sorry couldn't think of another word).  Even these are reconsidering". 
Come one Jon - are you actually thinking the big AS/400 ERP vendors are 
considering going backwards from platform independence to RPG?  Is that 
why JDE spent 5 years and hundreds of millions of $ moving from RPG to GUI 
C?  Are you saying SAP is considering moving to RPG?  Is BAAN switching to 
RPG development?
Can you name one major player that is considering switching to RPG that 
spent millions moving away from RPG? 
The only vendors still coding in RPG appear to have either: no competition 
(a niche player) or are milking a maintenance revenue stream.  But the 
latter group is not signing on any new customers!

-----Original Message----- 
From: Jon.Paris@halinfo.it [mailto:Jon.Paris@halinfo.it] 
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 1:43 PM 
To: RPG400-L@midrange.com 
Subject: RE: Using % type functions/using RPG IV 



  >> An exception to this would be MAPICS. 
Many of the big and medium size vendors are switching their new versions 
to RPG 
IV - although if they are all like the one that Susan saw last week at a 
client's site it may not be such a good idea!  (Can you remember the early 
"Native" apps on AS/400 <g>) 
The exceptions are those like JDE who have switched to a different 
paradigm 
(sorry couldn't think of another word).  Even these are reconsidering 
since many 
of their users have demonstrated that they have no intention of switching 
to the 
new versions. 
As has also been pointed out here it is perfectly possible to do a 
straight 
CVTRPGSRC on the vendor software and do your in-house mods on that.  If 
fixes 
etc. come in, you convert them too before comparing and re-integrating. In 
some 
cases the vendor has announced that there will be no new releases of the 
existing product.  When this happened I'd be headed for my RPG IV 
conversion 
tools faster than ........ 

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