RE: RPG IV and CF-spec "keep it IBM"

Well,

According to IBMers IBM is moving towards making profit off software since
they make more money off the suitcase they sold to hold the AS/400 P3 than
they did off the P3. Hard is NOT where the money is in the non-PC world--not
anymore anyway.

Bob Cozzi

http://www.RPGIV.com




> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rpg400-l@midrange.com [mailto:owner-rpg400-l@midrange.com]On
> Behalf Of Colin Williams
> Sent: Monday, August 09, 1999 4:44 AM
> To: 'RPG400-L@midrange.com'
> Subject: RE: RPG IV and CF-spec "keep it IBM"
>
>
> I think your wrong here. IBM do not want to sell software, they want to
> sell hardware, and only sell software as a buy-product, because nobody
> will buy hardware that has no software.
>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Bob Cozzi [mailto:cozzi@rpgiv.com]
> >>> Sent: Friday, August 06, 1999 5:32 PM
> >>> To: RPG400-L@midrange.com
> >>> Subject: RE: RPG IV and CF-spec "keep it IBM"
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Flipping burgers is a growth industry, yes.
> >>>
> >>> But it is not that those IT managers know that the CF-specs
> >>> are coming at
> >>> some point in the future. It is that today, they are
> >>> struggling to get there
> >>> apps to work, updated, or moved to RPG IV or another
> >>> platform. To add
> >>> another variable to the mix at this critical stage in the
> >>> life of the AS/400
> >>> is disappointing to me.
> >>>
> >>> IBM apparently doesn't care if you buy As/400 or an NEt
> >>> Finity server. They
> >>> want to sell software. Well they never wrote an AS/400
> >>> piece of software
> >>> that took over the world, so to me, that means we may have
> >>> a problem with
> >>> the future of the AS/400.
> >>>
> >>> Bob Cozzi
> >>>
> >>> http://www.RPGIV.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > -----Original Message-----
> >>> > From: owner-rpg400-l@midrange.com
> >>> [mailto:owner-rpg400-l@midrange.com]On
> >>> > Behalf Of Dave Shaw
> >>> > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 1999 6:17 AM
> >>> > To: RPG400-L@midrange.com
> >>> > Subject: Re: RPG IV and CF-spec "keep it IBM"
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > -----Original Message-----
> >>> > From: Bob Cozzi <cozzi@rpgiv.com>
> >>> >
> >>> > >Buck,
> >>> > >
> >>> > >If tech savvy managers are not moving to RPG IV because
> >>> they don't have
> >>> > >programmers who will be able to maintain it (as suggested in
> >>> > several other
> >>> > >posts) how will adding yet another flavor (the CF-spec)
> >>> enhance the
> >>> > >manager's willingness to use RPG IV? I believe it will
> >>> not. It will have
> >>> > the
> >>> > >opposite effect, hence my dislike of introducing the CF-spec
> >>> > today. Perhaps
> >>> > >after a few years of RPG IV code, if people want to go
> >>> the 'RPG V' route,
> >>> > >then sure, go ahead, but in today's world, CF-spec will
> >>> kill RPG IV.
> >>> > >
> >>> > >But, hey I only speak from talking to thousands and
> >>> thousands of RPG
> >>> > >programmers, not a few dozen respondents from this
> >>> mailing list (as IBM
> >>> > >apparently does).
> >>> >
> >>> > Please define "today", Bob.  My own personal definition
> >>> of "today" doesn't
> >>> > include "the release after next", "late 2000 or early
> >>> 2001", or any of the
> >>> > other availability dates that have been suggested as
> >>> being reasonable
> >>> > forecasts for this thing actually hitting the streets.
> >>> If there's really
> >>> > that many pointy-haired bosses who are concerned about an
> >>> optional feature
> >>> > that they probably won't even be able to use for more than two
> >>> > years, then I
> >>> > think I better look into the burger-flipping opportunities that
> >>> > are supposed
> >>> > to be so plentiful these days.
> >>> >
> >>> > ---
> >>> > Dave Shaw, Spartan Mills, Spartanburg, SC
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> >>> > The opinions expressed may not be my employer's unless
> >>> I'm sufficiently
> >>> > persuasive...
> >>> >
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