• Subject: RE: Code/400
  • From: Rob Berendt <rob@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 11:37:53 -0500

I did some research on the pricing for Code/400.  Ouch!  That 
pricing!  $1,150/user, or $287,500 for a block of 250 users.  
Gee, I wonder how many block sales they make?  Especially 
since there is no discount.  Anyone on this list purchased a 
block or more?  Granted they threw in VARPG.  But I'll open a 
separate thread on this later.  And probably on Midrange-L.  
Okay, I've got 11-12 people who use SEU on a regular basis.  
Some of whom probably won't take to the tool.  One we have 
to beat with a stick to keep away from VARPG - more on that 
later.  I was going to multiply this out, but that is a question 
for the budget people.  The old capital expenditure versus 
perceived hidden cost of productivity argument.  I was going 
to figure out the cost of this versus the other AD tools, but 
that is irrelevant since it requires that you purchase those 
tools anyways.  The question boils down to will it pay for 
itself in increased productivity?  That I'll have to try it 
out and see for ourselves.

What grinds my gourd is this:  If GUI tools are supposed to 
be oh so much more productive, and you can bang out applications 
faster than a goose poops grass, why are they dang expensive?  
Aren't they built with GUI tools that are oh so productive that 
can also bang out applications faster than a goose poops grass?  
Or is it easier to develop green screen applications and tools?

Any contractors going out to customer sites actually write quotes 
like the following?
Cost to do project A    with Code/400           $x
                                without Code/400                $x + y%

However, there was an interesting situation brought up at the conference.  
Went something like this.  Seems there was a company that bought 
two copies of Code/400.  They wanted to compare productivity.  
They forced rotation.  For a certain block of days you HAD to use 
the Code/400 workstations, then it was the other peoples turn.  
Shortly people started getting up at 4am to get into work early 
so they use SEU before they had to use Code/400, if they were on 
Code/400 that block.  After awhile it changed.  People started 
getting up at 4am to use Code/400 before they got kicked off by 
the people who were on Code/400 that week.
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