You are correct. The "How to obtain 5733OPS" doc says that 5733OPS is at end of life and says to use RPM. It doesn't specifically say that 5733OPS packages will be available thru RPM. That was just an accidental assumption on my part.

The key sentence in the doc being "All FUTURE open source packages are delivered via RPM only".

Sorry for the confusion. Please disregard.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Yeung [mailto:gallium.arsenide@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 10:06 AM
To: IBMi Open Source Roundtable <opensource@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [IBMiOSS] Replacing 5733OPS

On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 10:43 AM Jon Paris <> wrote:

Really? Because I was told the other day that Orion (which was part of OPS) is not going to be part of the new delivery.

I take it you are responding to

The document says that all features are now available via RPM packages.

I read over Justin's link, and I didn't see anything that says that.
It's possible I missed it, or I don't understand IBMspeak, but I don't think it's in there.

What the document does say, in the very first line, all by itself, is

All future open source packages are delivered via RPM only.

As far as I can tell, the document doesn't even say that ANY of the existing 5733-OPS software is or will be provided as RPMs.

Now, it so happens that a lot of the *functionality* is duplicated or superseded by RPMs. For example, there are old Node.js and Python versions in 5733-OPS. Those old ones are NOT strictly provided as RPMs today, nor will they ever be. But in most cases, you can use a superseding RPM (for example, most users of Python 3.4 can migrate fairly straightforwardly to Python 3.6). I fully expect there are some shops that have very version-sensitive dependencies (witness Rob's continual Java-related struggles) and those shops may need to stay on 5733-OPS long past end of support.

John Y.

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