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That's it.

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Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects


-----Original Message-----
From: Midrange-NonTech [mailto:midrange-nontech-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Buck Calabro
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 8:57 AM
To: midrange-nontech@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: SEU versus vi and Vim

On 4/30/2014 6:24 PM, Jim Oberholtzer wrote:
<snip>
SEU is dead
</snip?

For serious development, no question. For system administration tasks
and smaller CLP nope. The product was split off I think at V6 so it
is an orderable option now.

Most good administrators will retire before they take SEU completely away.


Just checked the MTU if it's in there it's well hidden.

Found what I was looking for. It IS buried!
http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/printableversion.wss?docURL=/common/ssi/rep
_ca/9/877/ENUSZP14-0159/index.html
This new 5770-AMT is a separate thing from 5770-WDS. Not sure who its
target audience is.

IBM Rational Application Management Toolset for i

Rational Application Management Toolset for i provides IBM i system
administrators and other advanced users with a lightweight set of tools for
the common tasks of working with library file system objects and scripting
with Command Language (CL). To meet a common need of IBM i system
administrators and advanced users, this new offering features simple,
per-processor licensing at an affordable price.

Functionally, Application Management Toolset for i is a subset of the
venerable Application Development ToolSet (ADTS) which is sold as part of
WebSphere Development Studio for i 6.1 or as part of Rational Development
Studio for i 7.1 and 7.2. Two of the key components of ADTS are Programming
Development Manager (commonly known as PDM) and Source Entry Utility
(commonly known as SEU). The new Application Management Toolset for i
includes these two components, in modified form. Specifically:

The version of SEU, that is included in Application Management Toolset for
i, only supports editing of CL source. It does not support editing of source
members written in other languages such as RPG, COBOL, C, C++ or DDS. Like
SEU, this editor provides language-sensitive features such as syntax
checking and prompting for CL source members.

Application Management Toolset for i supports the operating system
member types: CL, CLLE, CLP, TXT, and CMD in the EDTCLU (same as STRSEU)
command.
Application Management Toolset for i does not support the following
member types in the EDTCLU command:
Operating system types: BAS, BASP, BND, C, CBLLE, CBL, CICSCBLLE,
CICSCBL, CICSSQLCBL, CICSC, CICSMAP, CLD, CPP, DFU, DSPF, FTN, ICFF, LF,
MENU, MNU, MNUCMD, MNUDDS, PAS, PF, PL1, PNLGRP, PRTF, QRY, REXX, RMC, RPG,
RPGLE, RPT, SPADCT, SQLC, SQLCLE, SQLCBL, SQLCBLLE, SQLFTN, SQLPLI, SQLRPG,
SQLRPGLE, SRT, TBL
System/38 types: BAS38, BASP38, BSCF38, CBL38, CL38, CLP38, CMD38,
CMNF38, DFU38, DSPF38, LF38, MXDF38, PF38, PLI38, PRTF38, QRY38, RPG38,
RPT38, SRT38, TXT38
System/36 types: ARS36, ASM36, BAS36, BASP36, BGC36, BGD36, BGF36,
CBL36, DFU36, DSPF36, DTA36, FOR36, MNU36, MSGF36, PHL36, OCL36, RPG36,
RPT36, SRT36, TXT36, UNS36, WSU36

The version of PDM that is included in Application Management Toolset for i
can be used to browse, move, filter and otherwise manipulate objects of any
type, but it only enables software development options (such as Edit and
Compile) for CL objects.

Application Management Toolset for i supports the following functions from
PDM:

All the menu functions of STRPDM (new command STRAMT)
All the functions of WRKLIBPDM (new command WRKLIBAMT)
All the functions of WRKOBJPDM (new command WRKOBJAMT) including
FNDSTRPDM (new command FNDSTRAMT) with the exception of:
No option 18 to call DFU
No option 34 to call ISDB
No option 54 to call CMPPFM
All the functions of WRKMBRPDM (new command WRKMBRAMT) including
FNDSTRPDM (new command FNDSTRAMT) with the following exceptions:
Option 2 (Edit) uses new commond EDTCLU which will only support the
member types that are listed above
No option 17 to call SDA
No option 19 to call RLU
No option 54 to call CMPPFM
No option 55 to call MRGSRC

None of the other components from ADTS are included with Rational
Application Management Toolset for i. The excluded components are:

Screen Design Aid (SDA)
Report Layout Utility (RLU)
Date File Utility (DFU)
File Compare and Merge Utility (FCMU)
Interactive Source Debugger (ISDB)
Advance Printer Function (APF)
Character Generator Utility (CGU)
Application Development ToolSet Client Server (ADTS CS)

The other key difference between Rational Application Management Toolset for
i and ADTS is the way they are licensed and priced.

ADTS, as a part of WebSphere Development Studio for i or Rational
Development Studio for i, is licensed per user per system. (A license must
be purchased for every individual who might browse the file system with PDM,
edit a program with SEU, or compile a program with one of the heritage or
ILE compilers. If an individual user does such work on multiple systems,
that user must have a separate license to use the program on each system).
The price per license remains the same regardless of the type or software
tier of the machine on which it is used.
Application Management Toolset for i is licensed per processor, for
unlimited use on that processor by any number of persons. The license is
priced according to the software tier of the machine on which Application
Management Toolset for i is used.

--buck
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