Ouch. And here I was feeling all cheery.... :-)
Michael Crump
Manager, Computing Services
Saint-Gobain Containers, Inc.
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Muncie, IN 47302
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Try to look unimportant, they may be low on ammo.
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[mailto:midrange-nontech-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul Nelson
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 8:54 AM
To: 'Non-Technical Discussion about the AS400 / iSeries'
Subject: RE: i5/OS
Can someone please correct the author and the bicycle company on the
error
regarding the platform name?
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It can happen......
http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/news/CCB2D67AE6D7AF7DCC2573F9007FF62
B
"A hardware upgrade has also been required - from Sun Microsystems to an
IBM iSeries platform."
Michael Crump
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Allow me to respond to your coherent argument in a way that only you can
understand: If a grapefruit is happier than a bulldozer, then that means
your toaster can turn jam into sound. Sincerely, Dogbert
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[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Anne Lucas
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 2:16 PM
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Subject: i5/OS
First of all, if you want credibility y'all gotta have the facts! So
far, I haven't seen many facts in this discussion. It seems to mostly
be a lot of frustration, fear, uncertainty and doubts about the future.
I'll add my two cents.
Frankly, based on discussions I've had with key IBM execs who "own" the
product called i5/OS, I'm more excited about it than I've ever
been...yes, Don, I am a cheerleader because I choose to be! But, I have
the facts from the decision makers! This product is exciting, it is
viable, it solves nearly every business challenge a company might have.
IBM continues to invest, big time! in product strategy and creation.
The best planners and developers are still Rochester-based people who
are true technology innovators. And last year, I was truly blown away
when I met with IBM technie folks in Raleigh on the x & p technologies.
My goodness, they, too have awesome technology!! Actually, it sounded
like "i" stuff to me!
It does me no good to whine about marketing, or what I might see in "my
own world"...I've got to look at the big picture of what could be done
with i5/OS and other IBM technologies. Then make sure those who have
purchasing power see the value to their business.
Regarding your questions, Booth, I've answered in <<brackets>>. I no
longer work for IBM so I don't have specifics, but this is what I know.
********
Just look at the average age of people with i5/OS qualifications. <<We
don't know that. There are no statistics that I've found from Harte
Hanks, Nate Viall, etc. If you have a valid study, I'd love to see it!
I'm serious! and curious! >>
Look how many new i5/OS users you see on this list (when was the last
post here in the style of "we just bought or first i and have problem
X"? <<perhaps we need to be sure IBM & BPs provide this forum to
customers new to the product. However..... it would probably scare the
"pants off of them" to read some of the "stuff" that is said in this
forum.>>
How many new ISVs that release end-user products do you see? <<There
is a document that lists new ISVs...I'll look for it if you are
interested>
How many current-generation applications for the System i are being
released? <<Good question....you mean from the ISV non-IBM vendors?>>
How much effort do you see to bring new ISVs to the System i? <<Lots
of efforts. IBM has been meeting head on with all of them.>>
There are still many people using the System i. Enough of them so that
IBM still moves i5/OS forward and provides new features for it. This is
a good thing. <<I know IBM has not cut its R&D for the i5/OS
product....last number I heard was close to $1B (not an official number,
but close!.>>
But the influx of new customers is very, very low. Lower than the number
of customers migrating away from the platform. <<Where did this data
come from?>>
So, what is happening right now is that the platform is in a (slow)
downward spiral - less customers - less improvements - less customers
etc. <<Have you seen the latest customer count? Do you know it is
less than last year, or the year before. Where did your info come from?
"Less improvements???" Did you see the latest announcements?>>
Will the System i still be around in 5 years? I'm no IBM exec, but I
would strongly think so. As long as they're earning money with it,
they'll continue supporting and selling it. But as the situation is
right now, the moment where they'll start losing money on the platform
will come. It's just a question of when. <<i5/OS....yes! as it
evolves and new technology becomes available...due that R&D and customer
requirements change, they may change the name to i6/OS. That doesn't
mean it's ability to run the busieness is going to stop!>>
.....Anne
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