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Anne, As always your logic is hard to argue with. :-) I was trying to wait a few months before sending terse comments to the GM.........:-) But I think I'll write it today, and rewrite it tomorrow.......usually sounds nicer.... Mike ALucas@xxxxxxxxxx m To 01/11/2005 03:55 midrange-nontech@xxxxxxxxxxxx PM cc Subject Please respond to Microsoft goes after the iSeries Non-Technical Discussion about the AS400 / iSeries <midrange-nontech @midrange.com> You might send Mark Shearer an email ************************** Have a blessed day! 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RE: Microsoft goes after the iSeries (Bartell, Aaron L.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- message: 1 date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:12:00 -0500 from: Mike.Crump@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx subject: Re: Microsoft goes after the iSeries I think I'll extend my boycott of California Software products to ASNA. While I'm all for alternative programming environments I struggle with a number of inaccurate statements being made within the Midrange Alliance. I'll repeat my position that with the i5 and the standard or value license the iSeries is not the most expensive system and when you add all the manpower issues around MS 2003 server, SQL server, disk storage, etc. it is the most affordable system. Assuming you are a small, medium, or large customer running an enterprise environment it is improper to assume that the iSeries is more expensive. Now, with IBM's pricing charge of the 5250 tax it is possible to save money with a Wintel solution....... 1.) I think IBM needs to revisit it's licensing practices - including hardware maintenance......why give anyone an opening like that......? 2.) I think IBM needs to respond aggressively to this garbage...... Do you think Mark Shearer is listening to this stuff? ------------------------------ message: 2 date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:36:43 -0600 from: "Bartell, Aaron L." <ALBartell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> subject: RE: Microsoft goes after the iSeries >Now, with IBM's pricing charge of the 5250 tax it is possible to save money with a Wintel solution....... Their pricing is perfectly aligned with the direction they are going. They want you to go Java and Websphere, and what better way to do that than to keep interactive pricing high. We are pricing out two new i5 boxes of medium size, and being that our new software development approach is not using 5250 we can practically cut out the interactive charge. THIS CUTS THE PRICE OF THE BOX AND SOFTWARE IN HALF!! -----Original Message----- From: midrange-nontech-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-nontech-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 10:12 AM To: Non-Technical Discussion about the AS400 / iSeries Subject: Re: Microsoft goes after the iSeries I think I'll extend my boycott of California Software products to ASNA. While I'm all for alternative programming environments I struggle with a number of inaccurate statements being made within the Midrange Alliance. I'll repeat my position that with the i5 and the standard or value license the iSeries is not the most expensive system and when you add all the manpower issues around MS 2003 server, SQL server, disk storage, etc. it is the most affordable system. Assuming you are a small, medium, or large customer running an enterprise environment it is improper to assume that the iSeries is more expensive. Now, with IBM's pricing charge of the 5250 tax it is possible to save money with a Wintel solution....... 1.) I think IBM needs to revisit it's licensing practices - including hardware maintenance......why give anyone an opening like that......? 2.) I think IBM needs to respond aggressively to this garbage...... 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