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The real origin of Christmas was Bishop Liberius of Rome. 

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: Santa YES, Jesus NO
> From: "Peter Vidal" <Peter_Vidal@xxxxxxxx>
> Date: Tue, December 07, 2004 10:17 am
> To: "Non-Technical Discussion about the AS400 / iSeries"
> <midrange-nontech@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> "What, you have a problem with gay and lesbian Indian Shamans?    You
> fascist, bigoted hate monger!   ;)"
> 
> I know you draw a little smiley face Rick, but just to clarify, I do not 
> have a problem with this.  I have no hate nor anything else.  My point 
> with the news was that we are getting to the level of being ridiculous 
> when we want to remove the real Christmas' foundation from our culture and 
> strive to please all thoughts. 
> 
> Hey!  That is our tradition as a nation! Now, we can't say "Merry 
> Christmas!"  now is "Happy Holidays".  We can't say "Christmas  Tree" now 
> it is "Holiday Tree".  We can talk about Santa Claus but we can't talk 
> about the real origin of CHIRSTmas, who is CHRIST himself.
> 
> That was my point... :o)
> 
> Peter Vidal
> PALL Corporation
> SR Programmer Analyst
> 5775 Rio Vista Drive, Clearwater, FL 33760-3137
> 
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